The Difference Between The Work and The Secret

Dear Katie,
I’ve been hoping “The Secret” craze would pass as quickly as the Hula-Hoop, then this afternoon I saw it featured on Oprah.

It seems to me that this so-called “secret” is just another way of tricking the mind into thinking it is in control, a message that is diametrically opposed to your invitation to make friends with reality, love what is, just notice, etc.

I don’t understand how someone who has The Work can take this movie seriously; yet, I’m hearing from people I usually consider sensible that they [the moviemakers] are “saying the same thing Katie says.” Lots of people.

Please consider commenting on this movie/book in the Parlor.
Much love,
Susan

Dearest Susan,

Here are Stephen’s thoughts:

The Secret: “You can have whatever you want.”
The Work: “You can want whatever you have.”

The Secret: “My will be done. I know what’s best for me.”
The Work: “Thy will be done (=Thy will is done). What’s best for me is what actually happens.” (In A Thousand Names for Joy, Katie says, “God’s will and your will are the same, whether you notice it or not.”)

The Secret: “You can control your thoughts.”
The Work: “You are not the thinker. It’s not possible to suppress your stressful thoughts. But when you question them, they let go of you.”

The Secret: “You can manifest your positive thoughts as reality.” The Work: “Reality already is the best thing that could be manifested. When you realize this, you’re home free.”

Thank you, Susan, for your work during the Los Angeles relationships weekend, and thank Gayle also for being so amazingly generous and present as she gives the Work to people in this world through her excellent recordings. I and thousands of others are so very grateful.

The Secret? So, let’s discover for ourselves if there really is a secret, if in fact one exists. “There is a secret”—is it true? I don’t know, I just don’t know, could be, and how would I know when I have found it? Wouldn’t it mean (if it were really powerful) that when I truly found it, my life and the lives of everyone I love, which is everyone on the planet without exception, would be perfect? That I and all of us would no longer have to suffer from needing, wanting, and shoulding, and would be excited and grateful for what we have as we watch more and more flow in as we need it and always on time, just loving what is here for us right now in this moment? Hmmm. Okay, let’s keep moving.

“There is a secret”—can I absolutely know that it’s true that there is a secret which, if known, would give me the key to having everything that I want and need that I don’t have now in life? One that will give me later what I don’t have now (examples: a BMW, the necklace that I really want, weight loss, a bike)? No, I can’t know. How do I react when I think the thought that there is a secret and others know it and I don’t? I must live in a past and future that don’t exist as anything other than unfulfilled imagination, yearning for what I don’t have and believing that material wealth and better health are the key to my happiness, left out, isolated, unhappy, trying my best to get the things that I want and often failing and feeling like a failure. I begin to believe that I cannot harness this “secret” and end up with the same life that I started with in the first place, with or without material success. Who would I be without believing that there is “the secret?” Loving life, being “the obvious,” rather than being the secretive.

There is a secret? Now it’s time to look for the turnarounds that are as true or truer for you, dear Parlor family. The one-liner is “There is a secret.” What turnarounds do you see and are willing to share with us? Post your comments below, at the end of this post.

If I believe it and cannot find it, see it, bring it in as fact, then I cannot prove it to “myself” in this world. There is nothing that isn’t manifested by mind, everything is as we see it, and that isn’t much of a secret. It is only when time and ownership of “things” (and body is also a thing) are misunderstood that you attempt to dictate and manipulate these two factors (time and ownership).

The secret is that wanting what I don’t have leaves me wanting what I don’t have again when I have what I thought I wanted then. I don’t need to map out a plan for the future, and I would if it made sense to me or if I needed to, but I would have to distrust the nature of the universe and myself first, and I trust “myself” totally without question to love all of life. There is never a limit as to what to do now, as what “I do” is what we all get, and it accumulates because I don’t argue, I follow the simple directions that are always kind. I don’t do later what I am to do now, and no one does. Later is now.

The secret is to love what is. I love what is because this “what is” right now is all that is and all that ever will be! Right now, not later, all my needs are met, all my desires, my wants are visibly in plain sight and my eyes are open to it, and the feeling is love and gratitude for all that is right now at my beck and call without beckoning or calling or having even asked for it, prayed for it, planned for it.

I didn’t see Oprah’s show hosting the Secret guests, I was traveling, but I have heard from others that they more or less ended the show with two, maybe three, of the Secret guests showing their prior plans and desires, wishes, wants, imagining, imaging, making real in their minds whatever it took to “manifest” themselves as guests on the Oprah show and that is why it worked. There may be millions of people doing the same thing, just wanting to meet Oprah in person. They may really want to meet her with all their heart, and it isn’t enough. This could easily move into despairing thoughts such as “It doesn’t work for me, I’m doing it wrong,” and for some of you that I have met on the book tour, this opens the door to “I created my own cancer,” “What did I do to create this cancer?” “If I knew what I did to create my cancer I could uncreate it, and if I can do that it means that I never have to suffer again. I must know the secret or suffer and die unnecessarily,” “I am going to die if I don’t know the Secret; after all, the doctors say they can’t save me. What did I do to create this in me?”

True creation is like this: There is no cancer until the doctor tells someone that they have cancer and then until they believe it they can’t have it. If they have never heard of cancer before, they must first be taught that it exists, and then they can believe that they have it, and that must be taught too. If they don’t believe it from the doctor, then the family has to teach them. We teach them to have it and then we teach them to try and get rid of it, and if they can’t, then they die. We have to teach them that they live first, though. If we haven’t been taught, how can we believe? And we ourselves create “it” (cancer, everything) the moment we believe. All the evidence shows that it’s true, and that is how the belief is held in place. The mind goes from nothing to crazy with fear (really crazy, sometimes). This is the way people create, reinforce, and maintain their beliefs: “I am going to die, they can’t save me, my children can’t make it without me, God is punishing me, I don’t know how to unmanifest my cancer,” on and on. When the phone rings and it is someone you love talking to, you are laughing, talking, enjoying life in that moment: where is the cancer in that moment? Do you have cancer or are you absolutely cancer-free in that moment? Of course, we are absolutely cancer-free until the mind brings back the unquestioned cancer story into reality. I use the term “absolutely” on purpose. The mind creates who and what we are when we believe our thoughts and experience the concepts, feelings, and images in our heads in the moment. This isn’t right or wrong, it is just so in the moment we believe what we seem to be experiencing as our identity.

In my world, cancer has a right to live or die. Everything has a right to life and death, because I know what everything is, and its true nature. If “I” have cancer, that is my identity (that is who mind identifies me as) and as that identity, I may choose to have chemotherapy, do alternative medical practices, medical practices, change my diet, think positively, even though we continue to believe the “negative” unquestioned thoughts, the opposites of what we want to believe, even though we don’t want to believe them. We believe them until we don’t, and inquiry breaks the spell of “negative” thoughts and therefore what we negatively feel and believe. The negative thoughts, unless we question them, override the positive thoughts that we want to believe, and negative thoughts win out, and the positive thoughts are just powerful and ring true enough to make us feel better occasionally. They don’t work when we really are believing the stressful ones, the one that we don’t want to believe: “I have cancer, I’m going to die, they can’t heal me, my condition is hopeless, it’s not fair, I have created this,” etc. With or without cancer, my life is what it is, and I am grateful for that. With or without cancer, I am still sitting in this chair writing to you, and there are two ways to sit here. One is happy, and the other is stressed out.

I look forward to the turnarounds and examples from you, dear family. I want everyone to come to understand what so many of you are coming to understand about the ease of internal life. Please share your secret thoughts with all of us.

Loving you all,
kt

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218 comments

  1. I’m not sure where the turn around is here but I love The Work without ambivalence while “The Secret” evokes quite a lot of ambivalent feelings for me. I don’t trust it or the feelings it evokes.

  2. Love What Is! Love The Secret! It’s what is here now. Why argue with reality? People are watching and enjoying this movie. Good for them. I hope it makes their lives better. It’s not personally a movie for me but so what? Now that I know that, I don’t need to go see it. Many Blessing!
    Sean Simms

  3. Serenditpity. The Work is something that I have been learning over the past two and a half years, since my youngest son died. When I feel lost or I’m hankering after ‘things’ that I think will make me feel ‘better’, that’s when Byron Katie’s words seem to find me and get me back on the straight and narrow: loving what is; hankering after what I have. Thank you Katie and team, you are wonderful.
    Serena Nathan, Australia

  4. Essentially the Secret is the Law of Attraction which is not a new concept. It’s been around as long as the hills have. Some say as long as the Universe itself, since “The Law of Attraction” is a law of the Universe.

    Being someone with psychic endowment I have learned from Spirit that there is such a law as far as it goes. Does it negate what is? Nope, not even one ounce. Consciousness, reality, what is, IS God, that’s why Katie’s Work is so wonderful, it helps us go beyond the delusion of reality (what in India they call Maya) to the foundation of reality itself, perfection.

    Who am I without a thought? I am not a me I am the supreme I, the eternal Witness of exactly what is, and as That, I am its lover, just as is Katie. Reality does not stop at just the physical appearance of the world around you, the people around you, it goes on into infinity. The nature of reality is God which is infinite, it doesn’t stop. The delusional state of reality also persists infinitely as differing levels of reality, of energy, and its Source is Consciousness. What appears here is a divine play of consciousness. One can choose to focus entirely on the Source or substratum which is going beyond an unquestioned thought.

    The secret law of attraction is not a secret, has not been a secret. Can you have what you want? No. You can want what you want. You can want what you have. You can want what you don’t have. You can bring into your reality (if you persist in your stressful thoughts long enough) whatever desire you entertain, but only through effort. If grace (another name for reality) wants you to have what you desire then your effort and grace brought it to you, the law of attraction.

    Every thought is a lie. If you choose to participate in the seeable world as separate you can manifest anything you work hard enough for. You live in the separation of self and world and its infinite ‘things’. You may even believe there is freedom in this. Real freedom comes from questioning thoughts until they drop away and allow you to be who you are, greatest emancipation. Not needing what isn’t, not wanting what isn’t, and only loving what is. This is as Katie says it is.

    In the world of the apparent and separate there is an up and a down, a left and a right, a light and a dark, an above and below, in front and behind. There are angels, there are demons, there are spirits, there are people, there are worlds, there are things.

    In the world of questioned thought there is only what’s in front of you, the great manifestation of God. What else do you need?

      1. I enjoyed that, thank you.
        I went to see Esther Hicks speak recently. I enjoyed it. It can be fun to exciting to “co-create,” or believe you are the one doing. And if it’s not fun, I can do The Work instead/as well!

  5. words, words, words, so many words. Does it take so many words for us to understand…Blah, blah, blah….just give me some silence and less turnarounds…

  6. I love that I read this(About
    “THe Secret” tonight. “The Secret” has not filtered that much into my consciousness — and I don’t watch Oprah much. But it had flitted through my mental space a couple of times and I know it attracted my attention for a moment and I noticed the anxiety it produced.
    “WHat secret? Somebody has an important SECRET?” I work in the health industry as a writer, and there are so many people trying to sell their “Secrets” to cancer cures and prostate cures and every kind of cure. I have read so many pages of “Stuff” that sounds like it is going to lead you to interesting “Can’t live without” information and then it doesn’t –it just leads you to the “buy this book” page and it seems incredibly cruel. You can chase down zillions of promotions like this. And still there is another one around the corner that promises a BETTER, EASIER potion.

    Thank you for easing us blissfully past “THE SECRET” –to reality.

    Hugs,
    Maggie

  7. Katie suggests no need to do the work on thoughts that aren’t stressful… sure The Secret is some glamorized entertainment – and the folks in it are as fallible as each of us and paradoxically “their path is as high as mine”… But “is there a secret” isn’t a stressful thought for me!

    I don’t agree with every word the people in the movie or appearances say – and some contradict each other – I think it is a platform for book and services promotion – I think it proves that you can get rich selling motivational ideas – not necessarily anything. AND – I think I can learn and lot from these folks – I see nothing wrong or bad about them. They just do what they do and it’s ok and I find it entertaining and motivational.

    The core advice of The Secret mirrors my own experience of the past few years. No one told me that in order to “get what I want” – I should be ultra grateful for what I have. I just was ultra-grateful!!!

    And I think the step of being uber-grateful is a very important one.

    That is part of Loving What Is – that creates the gratefulness. It may be no coincidence that I started listening to Katie’s recordings in the past few years and they helped me to “relax” with reality more.

    But Katie is in some ethereal place I’m not on some issues. God Bless her – it’s her path and just not mine. I have *created* an immense amount in the past few years and an immense amount has come to me… that could only occur by having the visions and then carrying them out.

    Paradoxically – living in the moment is great and esp in times of stress – so necessary – yet the visualizing and creating is also for me and many others – also necessary. I see years into the future and so many fantastic things have come to me and were created as part of my work – that I started saying WOW I need to wish for bigger things because look at it all happening.

    Without any “secret” instruction – but doing basically the same things they talk about – and yeah I read many of the books of the guys / gals in that movie prior to “the secret” … I have been doing those things for years… I just spontaneously starting saying every morning when I woke up, things like “God, please help me to…” and my wishes. ( They sure weren’t for BMWs but to each his own. )

    I often accompanied this by visualizing the universe and my connections to it and the energy available from all of it. (PRE SECRET!!) I did this for years… it wasn’t a chore.

    Katie’s Work is – for me – not incompatible with other useful stuff of integrity. For example, Imago Relationship Therapy, particularly as expanded by http://al.turtlecounseling.com/ and http://hedyyumi.org/

    I love Katie because I consider her non-authoritarian. I would be very cautious of those who say they have THE way. Imago is all about honoring the perspectives of each person which to me can be equated to Katie’s acceptance of the reality that other people don’t think the same way I do.

    What is this pre-occupation which ascertaining which of the popular “ways of thinking” is THE correct one? Why not simply honor those that accept and support diversity and are not incompatible with each other?

    One of the great things about Katie is I think she’ll tell you she’s not your God and your power, insight and inspiration is within you. All trustable guides and facilitators, in my opinion, are those who lead you to YOUR inner wisdom – they do not apply THEIR “wisdom” aka projection on you.

  8. I have been an advocate of The Secret for a long time. When it was featured on Oprah, I became intuitively curious and open to what I would learn next. It seemed to me that The Secret ideas where just right for me at the time and the featured Oprah show was the moment I knew it was time to learn even more. Miraculously and as a gift from God, I was introduced to the “work”. If it wasn’t for The Secret, I may not have been able to see the wisdom in the “work”. I am grateful for both and all that is to come.

    Today I had a big fight with my husband on the way to church. I “demanded” that he turn the car around so I could go home. He did and I went home and he went to church. I did the “work” for the whole time he was at church. My belief was that if something good happens then something bad will happen. I was thinking bad was worse than good and I was feeling sorry for myself because I believed I had more than my fair share of “bad” in my life. All my life I have stood in wait for “bad” to replace “good”. What a stressful 59 yrs of life. Since I truly believe ALL IS GOOD, then even the stressful 59 yrs are good, right, just what I needed, okay, a gift etc. I turned around all the stress and pressures of my belief that bad follows good by accepting both as equally important and equally a gift.

    My heart, my mind, my body, and my soul were ready to BE in this moment. Everything that has happened to me, all the bad, all the good have brought me to this place where the teachings of the “work” can help me to live in the moment. I am grateful to myself, to God, to my “bad” life events, to my “good” life events – for the movie The Secret, for Byron Katie’s insights, for all that is.
    Blessings,
    Rosemary Radford

  9. THANK YOU! While I am a newbie to inquiry and have only read LWI and ATNFR in the last several weeks, I became aware coincidentally around the same time of the buzz on TS. While I’ve not seen TS, I’ve been told it’s much like the positive mindspeak/deliberate intent stuff that’s been around in various aliases for a long time. Fearing I was missing out on the “ask and you’ll get” train and yet feeling totally drawn to and in love with your inquiry work, I was baffled by the complete disparity in the two approaches and wondered if I was the only one who was noticing! Thanks for your comments yesterday — though I think I was already figuring out for myself that loving reality is a much happier way to go. Hugs and blessings.

  10. I agree that The Secret tells us that everything should be perfect if we were just clearly visualizing the things we want. Your explanation helps me to see how The Secret differs with The Work. Now I feel less stressed because I am not working so hard every day to visualize the positive things and the desired things. Things will be happy and positive when they are. I want to accept me the way I am. That is enough work in itself.

  11. Dear Katie, I am tormented on a daily basis about my life. I am very fortunate to have a beautiful son and husband but am always longing for more. I want to be helpful to people struggling with infertility as I did for 8 years. I began writing a self help book for women struggling with infertility but cannot seem to finish it. I think of all the time it will take away from my husband and son. I write a few paragraphs a couple time a weeks an am tormented about it the rest of the time. Why do I feel so driven but cannot seem to accomplish my project? It’s all I think about constantly. I would cherish any help. Thank you. Lisa

    1. The issue, Lisa, is that you have limiting beliefs related to completing this project. I guess this answer is a little late, but write down all those limiting beliefs and subject them to inquiry. There they true, are they serving you? What is the cost and payoff of holding onto those beliefs? Who would you be if you could no longer believe those things anymore? And if you keep at it, those beliefs will just start to drop away and you’ll find yourself writing and completing the book easily.

  12. In respect of the wonderful demonstrational positive PRODUCTION of “The Secret” and Katie Byrons “The Work” question as sent to me. In my opinion they are both one and one of the same.
    In “The Secret” Jack Canfield elegantly expresses that we do not see more than a few feet ahead of our path in life, no more than we percieve the road as we drive at night. Life unfolding because of our intent to unfold it. Or as Katie soulfully demonstrates of accepting it. Our only pains our only confussions, our only stresses or strains arise from our own choosing to not accept the truth of it all as being, just as it is, and both true for each of us, as we have perfectly chosen it to be for us at that time.
    Personally if I did not watch “The Secret” at the time I was able to percieve / watch it, I would not have recived (come into contact with)Jack Canfield, Joe Vitale, Bob Proctor, Denis Waitley, Bill Harris and the many other wonderfully positive people involved directly and indirectly with the production.
    After recieving and percieving this wonderful production, i became drawn (attracted) to each of their personal journey’s of discovering “Their Truth”, or “Their Secret” and following that i found Katie Byron’s contact through Jack Canfields connection as someone whom he has recieved the benefit of knowing.
    When I recieved Katie’s “THE WORK” The universe took care of the HOWS of THE SECRET.
    Each of us opens a door or closes the door for another.
    It is our Job to choose which we will do or not do for another.
    I love you all, as we are all one!
    Love and Light!

    Crystal D’Esprit!
    http://www.crystaldesprit.com

  13. Jefferson Airplane had a tune that I listened to a lot back in the day. The lyrics went something like this: “It’s no secret how strong my love is for you. It’s no secret when you got me jumpin’ up and down. It’s no secret when I tell you what I’m gonna do, ’cause I love you, yes I love you . . .”

    I notice when I love reality so much that it has me jumpin’ up and down, it’s no secret what it is telling me to do.

  14. Dear Katie and Friends of the Work,

    I was split between the ideas put forth in “The Secret” and my own experiences with The Work. My brother passed on the film, and I could see the potential that positive thoughts might have on creating the things that someone would want in their lives. “Why not?” I thought. “It could happen.”

    I even spoke to friends who were involved in the shamanic community, and they were big on intention and self-creation. They would often give me advice to make a list of what I wanted and to admire it daily for it to come to fruition.

    I am very much a stubborn person. I am also an open person. It’s funny, really. I decided I would try it. I would make a list of what I wanted, and try it out for myself. I listed a job, publication of one of my books, a woman in my life – and little by little, different things would happen, and I would think, “Is this it? Is this proof? Wow! I did this.”

    At the same time, I noticed many discrepancies. I was a person who could have any job I really wanted. I had experience and a personality that fit with the job I wanted. I wasn’t afraid of being in the present moment in the interview. I had no uncomfortable thoughts about the job. I already had it as far as I was concerned, so how could I have manifested or been on some “secret” to make it happen? Would someone without my experiences have been able to garner this job? Can people just wish for things without doing the work (and I mean actual education, location, networking, etc.) to make things happen?

    I don’t believe it. I got the job I wanted because I was pretty clear that I could get it. I knew what I had to do within reality to get it. I made a phone call. I submitted my resume. I spoke at the interview. I did the job.

    Now, as far as women in my life. I have had people in my life, and I have not. I have found that having someone in my life was about me actually being clear about having that person in my life. Whenever I have been unclear (or clear about not wanting something in my life), I don’t have that thing.

    Like last week, I wanted someone to share my life with. I felt lonely. I looked at it. I thought, “I need a baby. I need someone to hold me.” Then I took it to inquiry. I thought about it. I said, “Do I really? Why are you where you are at?”

    That’s when I remembered that I have made choices about who and what I am in this reality, because I have things that I want in this reality. Sometimes it’s having someone in my life. Sometimes it’s having the job that I want. Sometimes it’s a hundred things at once.

    It all gets rather confusing, and it’s hard to remember what I want exactly. Then I get chances to meditate. That can be real boring and awful. I don’t like my legs hurting. But it helps me be clearer about what the secret is all about.

    Anyway, I don’t really know if there’s a secret.

    I don’t think it’s that much of a secret to have the things people want in their lives. Actually, I’ll rephrase that. I don’t think it’s that much of a secret to have the things that I want in my life. It’s just that, at the end of the day, that kind of thing changes all the time. I might want a Big Mac one day, and sushi the next. I might even want the girl of my dreams or to be alone and write in my room. It’s really funny. I don’t think these things are opposed from one another. It’s just me. I want lots of things at different times.

    That’s cool. It’s what I am. Sometimes I can be real clear that I want to do something, and I’ll do it. Sometimes it’s harder. I might think I want something, but when I really think about it, I don’t. It was just a thought for a second. It was nice to have. Maybe, it was a story I wanted to live, because I was exploring an idea or hiding from thinking about what I really wanted.

    I don’t know what I want a lot of the time. It changes so much.

    I once thought that I needed to want nothing. I got hungry though. Then I had to eat. So I did.

    I have control over the actions I commit too. I don’t have control over anyone else’s though. I could do certain things to be on Oprah, but whether Oprah’s production staff decides to put me on her show, is up to her production staff.

    I don’t want to be on Oprah. Maybe, one day I will want to be on Oprah. I don’t care about Oprah right now. I am in South Korea. I am getting over a cold. I like how I get chills sometimes. I like lying in bed and watching that show, “Heroes.” It’s a good show. That’s fun. It’s nice to get over a cold.

    I don’t have any secret to being me, other than being. I like doing the things I do. It’s nice to be me.

    Tomorrow I might die. I might be on Oprah. I might even write a book. I don’t know.

    Right now I need to sleep.

    Turnaround: Is there a secret?

    There is no secret. I am sick. I need to sleep.

    Good night,

    Pirooz

  15. I spent my entire life trying to manifest and manipulate conditions to suit me. I never found happiness until I learned to manipulate myself to suit the conditions that had already manifested.

    While I’ve been pretty successful with this, The Work looks like it will probably help me take that to yet another level.

    Thank you, Katie and Stephen (long a literary/spiritual hero of mine), for 1,000 Names for Joy. It may turn out to be the most important book I’ve ever read.

    Namaste & peace, All.

  16. The hardest thing is to follow what I know to be the way to go. I know perfectly well that gratitude opens the cornucopia of the universe to me; yet for the last couple of weeks I have been so cross because my wife has not been what I think I want her to be!

    Regarding the difference between “The Secret” and “The Work”, they look, superficially, like opposites. I suspect the opposites can be reconciled and seen as two sides of the same coin; but I don’t know how to see that. Anyone help?

    Malcolm

  17. Why in the world are you guys even attempting to compare The Secret to you and your beliefs????? It is known worldwide that everyone has their own reality and their own way of thinking….so why would you question The Secret ? What makes your way more important then someone elses way? As long as it works for some people – it is good. This is just like the wars that religion has always caused. Everyone thinks that their way is “The Way” therefor wars. Just stop comparing. Do what is right for you and leave everyone else alone. Stop the war !

  18. I am really grateful to KT for posting her comparisons between TW (The Work) ideas and TS (The Secret) ideas. They seem quite opposite to each other.

    One thing that caught my attention at the end of the Oprah Show, was one of the guest speakers, who is an African American lady who teaches TS. When she started telling her story about how she had grown up in America as a poor black girl who never felt very attractive and was discriminated against and then TS had given her a chance to change her reality, she would sob and sigh so sadly in this retelling it was clear that though she may have achieved material success, better clothes, and an appearance on the Oprah Show as she had dreamed of, her pain was still very real in her mind and in her heart. She didn’t seem to have healed from the pain of wanting a different reality than her reality as a black woman in America. When she was telling her story, right at that moment of reviewing her painful childhood memories, her pain was still there. She seemed to still be arguing (in her heart and mind) with the reality of her childhood.

    Watching this part of the show helped me understand a key difference between TW and TS.

    With TS we can manifest some other thoughts into reality, alternate to the thoughts we have been manifesting until now perhaps, but this does not heal the painful thoughts that caused either experience of reality. In both scenarios she sees herself as a poor black child, one who made suffered, and one who it (apparently). In both scenarios, with or without money and success, she was suffering from the painful thought: I belong to an unwanted group/race/gender/ethnicity.

    What good does it do me to gain fame, money, and material success if, because of some unwanted reality, I still reject the woman I see in the mirror every day as I travel back to childhood in my mind and wish things had been different?

    All the money in the world will not take away the pain of feeling like a “lesser than” creature. Nor will it stop the inner argument against a poor childhood that once was.

    The Work will.

    Thank you Katie.

  19. I find it happens when anyone presents a picture…Looking at something will trigger a different response in every single one of us. Imagine we are all standing in front of the Mona Lisa…will we all say the same as to what we see. Coming from the same source we are one and yet all different. You are essentially in the moment…the one intrinsic theme is to “believe”. and essentially that directs all of us. Sometimes it takes different tools to make something…..or a different path, and they all lead to God. Byron Katie you have brought something magical into the lives of millions, do you think they have all achieved the same resonance in their life as you have? The people who teach “the secret” may have experiences that fill their moments. Did Ghandi not say, “be the change that you want to see in the world” There are always going to be those who are one step in front and those who are one step behind and even alongside, the question will arise , ‘Does it really matter?’ Find your place and see it, and feel it because you believe it. Possible choices are to question it and turn it around or whatever runs your boat!! Everything is a choice.

  20. I think the comments that have been posted are wonderfully thought provoking. Thank you all so much. My thoughts are simplistic probably, yet align with the higher part in me. Both the secret and the work bring out the higher concepts that are connected to the larger eternal source energy (what ever we chose to call it…God?). They are both benificial to us as evolving beings, and they both lead us further towards knowledge of ourselves and of our journey towards our own perfection. They resonate accutely with love and compassion. All is well and perfect during those difficult moments when we have tools at hand such as these. They help us learn to ” REACH” to connect with our higher selves. These tools are life-altering and transforming. They both fit where ever we need them. And just as we change and alter, none of us are at the same stage or place in life. Thank goodness there are choices for the different places we find ourselves.
    Love and light to us all!
    Laura

  21. Hi, I just want to be a wife and mother, due to me not working.

    As I love being a wife and mother,I have to go and try and find a job as money isnt there, like it use to be.

    To live this life money always makes it self know.”WHY”?

  22. I found I was, at first, quite excited by The Secret, then as that wore off and I continued with ‘The Work’, I found I was becoming more and more irritated by people that follow the Law of Attraction, etc, etc.

    After a while, I kept noticing myself making a statement about ‘people’ that use the Law of Attraction:

    They are superficial and only using ‘The Secret’ to try and get a better life.

    (How pompous and arrogant of me! 🙂 )

    Finally I inquired into this statement and, once again, saw my own projection:

    I was only using ‘The Secret’ to try and get a better life – yes, that was defnitely true and I am still tempted by it.

    AND

    I am superficial and only using ‘The Work’ to try and get a better life – ouch! Yes – that’s also true – when I do it so that I have more peace in my life, rather than doing it for the love of truth.

    What I am learning, yet again, is that if there is anything that annoys or irritates, it’s mine, not caused by anyone else. It appears in the subtlest of places.

    Amira made a comment about ‘stop the war’ – yes, absolutely – if only it were that easy – and it is a lot easier when I do ‘The Work’ and stay in my own business.

    With love,

    Jon

    1. “What I am learning, yet again, is that if there is anything that annoys or irritates, it’s mine, not caused by anyone else.” This is beautiful, IMHO. This realization is what brings true freedom, and doing the Work is what makes it possible to face with HOPE that which annoys and irritates.

  23. I love this opportunity to bring The Work into dialogue with The Secret. Here is what I have seen to be true for me.

    When I do The Work I get clear…really clear…about what is true for me. I see where my false ideas are and understand how believing them brings me emotional pain.

    After doing The Work I feel so much more open and spacious inside. I am in harmony with reality as I experience it. This brings me great freedom.

    Now what do I do in this freedom? Well, I have noticed that its very fun to go out and get involved in things I really like to do, to go places where I really like to go, and to have things that I really like to have. In freedom, I just go for it. It’s awesome!

    Do I “have to” do, go, or have in order to feel happy or successful? Oh, God, no! That’s how I think “before” I do The Work. I think having something I don’t have will make me “happier”. That’s a lie that The Work always points out to me.

    But…

    I can still enjoy having new experiences and things in my life. And I find that my mind comes up with so many things it would like me to experience.

    Will experiencing them “make me” happy? I don’t believe this to be true. I’ve never found anything to make me happy. That’s what I have learned from inquiry. My happiness is just there. It always has been, even when I couldn’t find it. Still, I enjoy my happiness in many ways.

    And this is where The Secret can come in. The Secret helps me attract what I’d like to experience into my life faster and easier than trying to force things to happen on my own. The Law of Attraction allows me to bring some really wonderful things into my life from the “inside-out”.

    But without the clarity and understanding that The Work offers, The Secret alone can become just another story that in the end fails to satisfy for long. This is how it seems to me.

  24. If energy keeps the conviction “There is a secret” alive, one needs the energy to keep “There is no secret” alive in order to undo the first conviction.

    Do not keep any conviction and the energy is free to flow whereever it goes taking you along to all kinds of secret, unknown and exciting places. Let it be, let it flow! Do not interfere with whatever conviction and it will disappear : it never is your own conviction, it simply is a tempory mental visitor. Do not house it forever. Stay free!

  25. The reason there seems to be “a secret” to reveal about life is because “it” is so present we often overlook its presence. So we keep searching and seeking for what we already have and for what we already are. As long as we are blinded by the light of who we are, and buy into the illusion of separation, we will continue to search for “The Secret.” How do I know? I did this very thing for decades until The Work found me.

    Prior to The Work, if I had a copy of The Work in one hand and The Secret in the other, and I had to make a choice, I would have chosen The Secret, like so many millions are. People want to find the missing ingredient or pieces of the puzzle, which were never missing in the first place. It only appeared that way. The secret is that there is no secret. Never was. I just couldn’t see “it” because it was doing the looking through me … while “I” was looking for it! 😉

  26. My turnarounds for “There is a secret.”

    Everything is perfectly clear.

    I am not separate from anything.

    There is nothing that can be concealed.

    There is a revelation.

    Mind is open.

    There is visibility.

  27. Yes! There is a secret! We know nothing!
    The secret is exactly Thát, that people (already for millions of years)try to grasp, to describe, to analyse or understand…
    Yes, there is a secret,cause, what is the Life Creating Intelligence that makes us breathe, that “does” us, moves us, thinks us, walks us? What is That that makes a heart start beating, what decides to turn into another energy (we call it death), what focusses so it creates human beings, life, nature? We will never know. It is a miracle.
    “I” am a secret. I am in the secret. I know nothing. What a relief. So I can “just” live life in peace.

  28. Hi,
    I live in the West of ireland and am a healer. This is the first piece of Katie’s I have read. A friend introduced me.
    I wish to make no comment but interested in hearing more of her philosophy. I believe there is something good to be extracted from every experience.
    Kindest regards
    katherine

  29. Katie’s question was what turnaround do we see for the statement: “There is a secret”.

    One is: “There is NO secret.”

    Another is: “There IS truth openly available for all to access.”

    In stead of doing The Work on the statement “There is a Secret”, it is interesting to do The Work on one of the many propositions that the program makes:
    “You can have whatever you want.”
    “My will be done. I know what’s best for me.”
    “You can control your thoughts.”
    “You can manifest your positive thoughts as reality.”

  30. From: Susan Vos – South Africa

    I don’t see TS and TW as opposites. There has been a lot of hype about TS but it isn’t new. Where TW helps TS is at the allowing phase – most of us are good at attracting what we want or at leaset knowing what we would like to have – the trick is in allowing it in, and that’s where I see TW coming in – helping us deal with our negative thoughts and limiting beliefs by inquiry and turnaround. If we believe we create our own destiny then we can uncreate the parts that don’t serve us through both TW and TS. Love and Light – S

  31. The real difference between The Work and the Secret is about $500 million dollars.

    The Work is a genuine process which has been developed by Katie over the years and given away with love. The secret is a marketing scam developed by a clever marketer and includes a who’s who of marketing gurus to make people feel good while parting with their cash.

    No bloody comparison.

  32. I do not see any conflict with the Secret or The Work. They actually are mutually reinforcing.

    If you love what is, then you can love your choices and desires. Thinking that the fulfillment of these choices and desires is conditional on your finding ultimate happiness will bring you misery. The focus is (Katie) loving what is now and (The Secret) is always feeling gratitude, no matter what, for what you do have. Love and Gratitude? Seems pretty similar to me.

    The Work teaches how to be at peace NOW with what is, while The Secret (and it really is no ‘secret’) teaches that we are creative beings, a part of God and one with All That Is. As such, we have the ability to choose what we want to create in our lives. Is this true? I don’t know, but I like this thought, so I will keep it for now.

    Does that mean ultimate control over everything? Does that mean everything that happens in my life I somehow created? Of course not, (I did not create the rain this morning!), but I do create my EXPERIENCE based on my attachments and beliefs of what does happen. I may or may not be able to free myself of cancer, for example. But, if I let the Universe take care of the how’s and when’s, I am free to enjoy the ride and love what is as it comes along. Then I can make new choices – or not depending on what manifests.

    A thought that I choose to believe for now is – “You don’t ALWAYS get what you want, but you ALWAYS get what you need.” It is up for interpretation, I know. But for me, it is an acknowledgemnt that I don’t know all the causes and effects of everything, and all I can do is do my best and let go of the details.

    This is the beauty of The Work and The Secret.

    If what we want does not manifest, we can question if we really wanted it in the first place or were we afraid to really want something and actually get it? Are we afraid of personal creative power? Are we afraid to give up being a victim? Afraid of success or failure?

    For me, Loving What Is never meant for me to give up choices and desires. Part of Loving What Is, is loving the fact that there is “The Secret” and seeing the truth, however foreign to me at first, in all things.

    Peace,

    Tim

  33. Can you not see it is our limited mind again which tells us either “this” or “that” must be true; that they surely cannot be true simultaneously? Our little linear mind that can not extend enough to contain both and all, in which case what have we done? If we continue to monger war, to compare gods and fall blind yet again, what work have we actually done?

  34. Some turnarounds:

    1) obviously, there are no secrets at all in reality; it just is what it is.

    2) there is nobody to have a secret in the first place.

    3) the word Secret implies something that is precious and hidden…something valuable that would offer “more” to life. “there is something lacking in my life” is it true? nope. whatever you have, whatever situation you are in at this one and only moment…it is exactly what we needed—no secret.

  35. Other possible turnarounds…

    I have a secret.
    My secret is I actually don’t want that other thing. I actually like my life. But don’t tell anyone…

    I don’t have a secret.
    I don’t need a secret.

    They have a secret.
    The secret is: there is no secret.

    They don’t have a secret.
    They just don’t. (Even if they now have more money – and does that create more secrets? Not that I don’t wish them to have what they want – I do. If they know how to generate that money and others are getting what they are paying for, what do I care? Congratulations!)

    In the end, the word “secret” now in all this repetition seems to have become a non-word, seems empty and absurd… Just a bunch of secretion, perhaps.

  36. Hello Katie,i am doing the work and i discovered many trues from the universe
    to recieve my lifewith joy i need to be alone and go forward without anyone
    i am giving up the fear the control and in paralel i feel the enjoy from life the real life is when my soul is enjoy and for my joy i need to be ready to find myself with desire to live the right life i do my steps to my enjoyble
    life by doing the work and be courage to be what i fell i need to be in this world
    good feelings support me in my continue to move on and life support me i have eyes to connect to my soul and enjoy the world and if the thoughts are disturbe i focus on the good feelings and it’s going better i feel my power and i already can choose to concentrate on the right side of my life i am a student-trader of Bill Williams and i do my work
    by Bills recomende i belive life is good
    and i trust in life and in me.it’s good to send you a comment
    Roza

  37. Thought & Universal Laws
    By Deepak Lodhia

    What could thought possibly have to do with cause and effect? Since thought has no apparent measurable physical structure, it is considered to be spiritual. You can’t see it, smell it, touch it, taste it, or even feel it, but we know it exists. It exists only as a vibration.
    Remembering what we have learned from the the Law Of Attraction we know that vibrations that are of a particular frequency and intensity, attract to themselves alike vibrations, to bring into the physical world the result of the initial seed that was planted – in this case, thought. Just as the sunflower seed required nurturing (sun and water) your thought seed will grow according to whatever you feed to it or nurture it with. The thought, just like the sunflower seed, can only produce an outcome that is in relation to, and correlates with the seed that is planted. If your thought seed consists of fear, anxiety and doubt, we now know that through the predictable and unwavering Law of Attraction, those thoughts can only grow into and produce that which is in relation to the seed planted, and you will receive fearful, anxious, and doubtful results.

    But here is the incredible news! By nurturing the original thought seed with healthy, concise, focused, and positive elements, it must produce results in relation to the seed planted! Plant the seeds of abundance and happiness and nurture them, then abundance and happiness must sprout and grow from them. Plant the seed of healthy, positive and fulfilling relationships, and healthy, positive and fulfilling relationships must grow. Plant the seeds of incredible health and vitality and incredible health and vitality must grow from them. The only thing that you have to do is nurture those seeds with correct thought and allow the incredible and unwavering power of the Law of Attraction to attract to you, the exact results that you desire! That is how the Law of Cause and Effect operates.

    Now that you have a clear understanding that whatever acts you perform are subject to a precise reaction or process (Cause and Effect), you can then make a conscious choice as to what thoughts you think and which actions you take (or not take), and limit them to only those which will produce what you want into your life. So how do you know which actions to choose? Quite simply, by only choosing those things (thoughts, words and actions) that are in alignment with whatever it is that you are trying to attract.

    The only possible thing that can stand in the way of you receiving your desires is you. It is up to you to make the conscious choice to change your thoughts, words, and actions which, with repetition, establishes the belief in your subconscious mind. The subconscious mind (including your spiritual consciousness) then releases into the atmosphere and emanates those vibrations of the thing desired which attracts to it, the events, people, circumstances, and situations that allow it to manifest or occur. You only have to be receptive to them. It is important to expect them and look for them as they occur. Believe me, if you will follow this process, they will come!

    The above is extracted from Deepak’s book, “Universal Laws.” If you would like a free copy, just add yourself to the Mailing List at Catalyst Coaching it will be sent with love!

  38. Oh Katie: Thank so much for commenting on the supposed “Secret”. Someone sent it to me in an on-line video; I opened it, heard the first, I think, bit saying “I could have anything I wanted”, realized I DIDN’T REALLY WANT ANYTHING, and turned the thing off. But I notice others do believe. So Thank you, Brianda

  39. This is my understanding of how The Work and The Secret correlates to each other.

    The Work is to question my thoughts without suppressing and when I do I find that the negative and stressful dissolves, transcends and I am in alignment with that which I am.
    Then I only experience the god in every thing that happens to me.

    The Secret is simply The law of attraction witch tells me that I am always supported.
    What ever I am living (conscious or unconscious), putting attention to, focus on I will attract more of in to my life.

    If I believe and start to identify with my negative thoughts like this

    quote from Katie

    “I have cancer, I’m going to die, they can’t heal me, my condition is hopeless, it’s not fair, I have created this,”. End quote

    without having questioned them (not suppressing) they will be supported because the law of attraction is doing its job.

    And when I start with the Work process or any other way of questioning this thoughts and realize that I don’t have to believe them. In that moment I’m letting in other thoughts that are as true or truer to be equally supported.

    quote from Katie

    “With or without cancer, my life is what it is, and I am grateful for that. End quote.

    In this moment “I am grateful” will be equally supported

    quote from Katie

    the phone rings and it is someone you love talking to, you are laughing, talking, enjoying life in that moment: where is the cancer in that moment? Do you have cancer or are you absolutely cancer-free in that moment? End quote.

    In this moment “the thought, experience of non existence of cancer” will be equally supported

    quote from Katie

    With or without cancer, I am still sitting in this chair writing to you, and there are two ways to sit here. One is happy, and the other is stressed out. End quote.

    Regardless of which way I take the way I take will be supported according to the law of attraction.

    Change the way you’re look at things and the things you look at change.

    With gratitude, Peter

  40. If I were the creator of my life, as The Secret says, trying to create something is acknowledging that I have a lack and a need. If I really were aware of being the dreamer of my universe dream there wouldn’t be any need to create something to counteract my dreamt of lack. This seems closer to The Work than to the belief system of The Secret.

    I have read here that there is much money making about The Secret, but also with The Work there is earnt a lot of money, so this surely is no indicator of anything.

    I read in the original blog:
    “There is no cancer until the doctor tells someone that they have cancer and then until they believe it they can’t have it.”
    Is this true?
    Obviously not, as many people have physical ailments not knowing which disease they have and some even die without having known of any disease they had. So, even the initial statement does not stand inquiry.

  41. “The Secret” may be a poor choice for the name of the craze. It is about the Law of Attraction. The idea that it has been kept a secret by a hand full of people down through the ages contridicts the very Law. It is no more secret than The Work. Which ever way one comes upon the Oneness of creation and the glorious abundance of it all, is a wonderful thing. I am one of the people who see an alignment of sensibilities between “The Work” and “The Secret” (as well as A Course In Miracles, The Sedona Method, and NLP). Some people will need to hold onto their misconceptions and saddness no matter what. People will find peace in the very ways others find fear.

  42. Thank you so much, Katie and Stephen, for your clarity on this question. I was shown a DVD of The Secret a while ago, and found it quite disturbing. I couldn’t quite work out exactly why, but I felt its message was in opposition to real freedom, which is only and always here, now. The Secret seems to invite me to an imaginary future, and I know from experience that the fulfilment of one desire only leads to the next, and the next and the next…

    And thank you, Katie, profoundly, for A Thousand Names for Joy. It made me deliriously happy.

    Katharine

  43. i have been studing the course in miracles now for 4 years..i also have done the work, i have seen the movie and have purchased the book. i am teaching the “secret” on wed. and thrus. night..in the cim jesus states that the holy spirit will use whatever it has been given to help us to know who and what we are. we are taught that we are the children of “god”. that we have been created in his image, that we have fallen asleep and dream of exile from our creator. to awaken from the illusions that we have created..i have done the tw and found that i have precieved my past as someone’s else fault. i can either stay in the past and blame all the illusions that i seem to have on others, or i can see the illusions as they truly are and know that i have dreamt of exile. learn forgiveness for myself and others and just be in the “now”..there really isn’t anything that i have to do. i trust in the holy spirit for guidance and listen to his voice for god. some of our brothers and sisters have not yet started to awaken, the secret was brought forth to awaken that little spark of knowning within them. there is nothing wrong with postive thinking, as this is something that jesus and the great teachers has known and still know. but as children who belive that we are only bodies and not thoughts, and that we can not have any control in our lives as humans, and accept the suffering, the pain, and the abuse,and that there is nothing we can do to help ourselves, what does it hurt to bring forth a way for positive thinking and to take back the control that we have given others. we are the creators of our illusions, not god,he has given us a way out of the dream we dream of judgement, guilt and of sparation. we can either accept pain and sorrow, or we can ask holy spirit to show us what it truly is..in the secret it does not state that money is what life is all about,it states that happiness, joy and love come from within, it states that how ever we think ourselves to be is what we project out. it states that we should be grateful for what we have now, to love ourselves as we were created in the image of this great and mighty energy flow. if we look at what jesus taught in the bible, isn’t this all the same? katie has done the same thing, she teaches us to look at how we precieve things, people, and our past experiances. to change our thoughts about it. jesus stated in the bible that “by our faith” we are healed he is talking not just about the body but of the mind. he states this also in the course in miracles and this is what is taught in the secret. yes, they did make money on this film and book, what is wrong with that? there are lots of great teaches and avatars that has made money from their teachings. we only do nothing, for it has already been done for us..all is needed is to be willing to allow holy spirit to show us and teach us what we truly are. to let go of the thinking of sarpartion. to precieve with only love, and it is given back to us. we project outward as how we precive inward. i chose not to see any lack within anyone, sickness, suffering, pain, depression, and so forth, i chose only to see how god precieves us all..if i look for negitive things i will see only negitive things, if i chose to see prefection, then i will see prefection.in my classes i have brought forth all of the teachings, the work, the course in miracles, the secret and the bible,, it has helped others to let go of thier past, forgiveness, love and most important, to love themselves as god loves us as one.we can use them all to help others and ourselves..blessings to all..love connie

  44. So many books, speakers, techniques, etc. After so many, I am now down to 2. The Work, and A course in Miracles.The secret is entertaining to me and can be helpful to some, but it makes the world of duality real and important. The things that we wish to manifest are evidence of the thoughts that are causing us pain. By examining those painful thoughts and getting clear, I recieve my good, and I am at peace.God is. Gary

  45. Well this is the post that has finally helped me let go of the Work. Maybe the Work has let go of me…whatever. The semantical parlour game called the Work is over for me.

    quote:
    “The secret is that wanting what I don’t have leaves me wanting what I don’t have again when I have what I thought I wanted then.”

    Really? So wanting is a sin. It’s masturbation, apparently, and it’s best that we eliminate want, not by having and not by satisfying our wants but by Working our wants away. There’s no wisdom in our wants, apparently, but I suppose I could use the old semantic parlour game and say “unless there is”.

    Quote:
    “I don’t need to map out a plan for the future, and I would if it made sense to me or if I needed to, but I would have to distrust the nature of the universe and myself first”.

    How tired I am of this semantic juggle game, this pea and thimble trick masquarading as wisdom. “I don’t need this, unless I do”. Amazing how such a profound self negating statement disappears into it’s own self referentially redundant blackhole. Sucked in. What a waste of words. Unless it’s not…unless it is…unless…

    For all the shallowness of the Secret movie it did indirectly introduce me to the Sedona Method. As a method it reminds me of the Work but it really works for me. The proof of the pudding for me has been this…after using the Work for some years now, (last year plodding on in spite of and indeed *because* of my doubts as to it’s effectiveness), I have achieved more with Sedona than I ever have with the Work.

    I am much more peaceful and I am achieving my goals. The Sedona Method deals with wanting in a very elegant way that makes more sense than I have ever heard coming from the mouths of the Work advocates.

    The sheer freedom I have achieved with Sedona has taught me that the Work has failed me, and that is a REAL turnaround because I thought I was failing the Work. Years of evaluating the Work has ended. It’s hard to turn around and question the Work because it remains above all criticism…”can you be sure…”, “turn it around”…

    The Work has failed me…is it true? You bet. The proof is in the pudding. Sedona taught me that. Now I have a hard won experientially based comparison to go by. How liberating.

    It was always interesting for me to see people using the Work and staying stagnent in their life, the difference being that they “accepted” their stagnation. Oh I’m quite sure that a pea and thimble defence can be mounted for the Work but I am happy to report it will no longer wash with me.

    For all the talk about the Secret being a marketing gimmick don’t forget the Work is not above all that. I wonder if this will be posted? I’ll be very interested to see if it does.
    Cheers
    Mr T

    1. I don’t have a clue what Sedona is but given my inquisitive nature I will go and check it out. I guess the work and the Secret was right on time pointing me in a different direction. Inquiry loops endlessly, it did however work for a while and the Secret, well to me it is strange because I fell for it at first too . No judgement, just no break without looping endlessly with tiny pearls in between the chaos. Inquiry for me never stops. It breaks open and gives birth to more babies. The secret makes me want what I don’t have and the trick only lasted a while. Reminds me of other stuff I held onto. Religion, atheism, medication etc. I love all of these for it served a major purpose and I am at the same point again right before something fascinating and cool is waiting around the corner! Here is to finding out more about Sedona and whatever else may or may not come from reading about it. Love you Katie, thanks for sharing your pearls xxx

  46. The Work and The Secret both teach gratitude for the reality you are in at the moment (and I am talking about what I learned from the movie TS and 2 Schools)and they both teach that whatever happens is what you believe what happens. The two ‘teachings’differ in their goal: Katie helps people so they can enligthen themselves (by giving them TW so we can realize for ourselves there is nothing we need we do not already have) and the Secret wants to learn us the power of believing our thoughts and how we create by believing ourselves into a creation, so we can have a happier, healthier life. Avatar (a course delivered worldwide) does the same thing.
    I love it all an use it all every day of my life.
    Love,
    Mariska

  47. I’ve seen The Secret DVD a couple of times with different friends, and both times the hype annoyed me. It opens with hype, pulls one in with hype, and ends with hype…marketing hype! I was familiar with many of the contributors’ work, having been on their mailing lists for a few months, and then unsubscribing from them because of the barrage of marketing hype.

    Having said this, I also believe that like What The Bleep Do We Know, The Secret helps to open up the thinking of the masses. There has to be an opening to thinking differently before deeper work can be done. Most times in life we open our thinking when we are in crisis. Both movies mentioned help to open our thinking during everyday moments of life, so that’s “a good thing” as Martha Stewart would say.

    With a shift in mass consciousness, even at the level inspired by The Secret and What the Bleep, good things can and do happen. Perhaps more people will now be open to doing deeper work.

  48. Both TS and TW require that we be responsible for our thoughts, at least bring them into consciousness. Once we are looking at our thoughts and beliefs we can choose to use either TS or TW and see how it goes. Sometimes I use TS and I get frustrated and dis-satified with my life, then I use TW to accept what I have as being fine for now. Mostly I use TS and TW to correct a habit of negative thinking. Both have taught me that I can choose to be happy and accept responsibility for what I create by my attitude.

  49. The Secret places its focus on ‘spiritual materialism’. In the end, it’s not about ‘having’, but about ‘being’. If we want to change, stop asking ‘what do I want to have?’ and start asking ‘who do I want to be?’ We can achieve the latter instantly by using The Work.

  50. What an interesting debate! I am reminded, whilst reading many of the posts, of the words from NDW’s Conversations with God. “Why settle for either or when you can have both and?”.

    My thoughts are that the delivery of The Secret is flawed – too much, ‘Just want it and you’ll get it!’ and not enough appreciation of why people’s physical reality is as it is now.

    We undoubtedly create our reality because thoughts, words and deeds have consequences and we must (and do) live with them.

    What Katie has brought to us, is a deeper understanding that those consequences are not what causes us the stress. Its our Judgment of those consequences that is stressful. Why does anxiety have to be bad? if I’m anxious can I not be anxious without feeling bad about it? The answer is most definitely ‘Yes!’ Try it, its really cool!

    But then don’t i have choice? It may not be free will but i can decide for myself if i want to be sitting, standing or lying down? Following the Work, its the judgment of whether sitting is better than lying, etc, which is stressful.

    So choose your Porsche over your BMW, or even choose to not be able to make the repayments on your old banger just know that whatever the choice is, its perfect. Its God.

    So for me, the battle of the truths – TW V’s TS (which conjures up images of Katie and Rhonda Byrne in some kind of WWF arena knocking seven bells out of each other – introduce the BLEEP and my money’s on JZ Knight. I bet that woman can pack a punch!- sorry digressed!) is just taking people out of themselves and confusing their own truths. The secret must be true because IT IS. The work must be right because IT IS too.

    We are here to experience life, not to be crushed by it. for me, TW shows us how to enjoy our experience what ever it may be and TS show us what we might choose to experience and that we can choose.

    Some of you are angry, some of you are uplifted, some of you are invigorated – Cool, that’s your experience. Have a rich and stress free one…

    Much Love and chi to all,

    JMR

  51. Hello,

    I used to make meditations with music and pictures, my minde where allway full with something, somehow I got tired onday and i told to my self that this cant be the way..It must be something else that can really work for me:). And this nothingness that ‘the work” bring it to us is the essence of us. Even if i would know that doing the secret I would earn lots of money I wouldn do it cause I dont know if this is the best way could happend to me…maybe I woudnt be that happy. The stillness in me is the most precios feeling I have.I want to stop war in me with loving what is.:)

    Somday I hope Katy will come also In Romania to visit her “fans”:)

    kiss you all, including Katy:)

  52. Hello Beautiful One,

    I will only enter a post once. Here it is. First, Katie, congratulations on being a beautiful being. We are all One and are All beautiful right now.
    As I see it, now 44, having experienced life, death, mystical experiences, miracles, auras, chakras, reiki, the tao, spiritual cinema, hay house, concsious one, the journey, meditation, prayer, the secret, oprah, seat of the soul, synchronicity, celestine prophecy, wayne dyer inspiration, abraham, eckart tolle, crystals, fairies, murmaids, lepricons, native healing mechanisms, deepak chopra, sylvia browne, caroline myss, the tao, a course in miracles, to mention a few, which, in my truth, All have contracdicted their own teachings at one point or another, this is what I’ve come to know as my truth. All outside influences fade out at one point or another and we find ourselves just living, being, experiencing, enjoying, thus living. We live, we die. We choose what we experience by our beliefs based on what we are thaught until we teach ourseves different beliefs, methods and take different actions and we learn for ourselves what is true for us. There is no thing or program that can fix anything, cause nothin’s broken, it is what it is because it is, it is what we chose to experience through our emotions about it and actions, free will. Prior to reincarnation, we charted our lives with a few free will roads which are determined by which actions, feelings and beliefs we choose to do, act or believe. These choices whether it be in action, thought or emotion, determine how we live, feel and love or not. We are never not aligned, we are never what we have not chosen, acted upon. Highs and Lows, Ups and Downs, Health and Disease or Unhealthy, Black and White, and so on and so on IS 🙂 part of life, it is life. We are all going to get older no matter what technique we use or not, we are all going to experience, pain, suffering, miracles, sadness, excitement, dreams, conflict, that is life. Wanting to change anything at any level is resisting ourselves, changing what is at any level, is a new experience until we decide we want to experience something else. If we’ve charted it for ourselves it will happen. It doesn’t matter how much intending we do, it doesn’t matter what method, book, teacher, alternative we use to get whatever it is we’re after, we will be do have what we charted out for ourselves. I am an animal communicator, psychic, healer, reiki master, intuitive, mom, wife, worker, singer, friend, loving life and sometimes not so much till I remind myself to be and so on. Just Be. Be happy, Be sad, Be content, Be mad. Feel it all and strive for Love, Kindness, Health for yourself and others. Be God. Love everything and everyone. When I do readings whether it be for animals or humans, I alwasy remind them, that no matter what I say right now, that this can all change from one day to the next, there is nothing set in stone, cause it depends on the beliefs, thoughts and acitons one take that determines the destiny of their lives. So at this very moments this is what can happen, this is what’s happening based on ones thoughts, feelings and acitons. but if one changes this, then this is what can happen. When a healing takes place through me, it means that it was meant to happen, and if it doesn’t it was not, meant to be. There is no magic, life, is, magic. All of it.
    All my love to all.
    Caroline

  53. I think Katie takes an extreme position on this paradox. She says something doesn’t exist if you are not aware of it in the moment. Saying things like “if you don’t know you have cancer, then you don’t have it” denies the oneness of the mind/body/spirit. It’s an untenable philosophical position that things don’t exist if we are not personally aware of it in the moment. If a tree falls in the woods and no one hears it, then the tree didn’t fall? Try putting a blind fold on and earplugs and walking out in the middle of traffic — I don’t see the cars, hear the cars, I am safe — until I get hit and am dead. Katie’s answer sounds like a lot of double talk and really says nothing.

  54. I love the fact that The Secret has become so popular and has helped so many people. And I love that some people are so offended by The Secret. And I love that some people see the similarities between The Secret and The Work, and I love that some people only see the differences between the two. I love all of these because they are all reality, and I love reality 🙂

    I don’t always understand reality, so I sometimes find it more difficult to love it, but once I realize that it’s not reality that’s causing the problem, it’s my understanding of reality that’s causing my problem, I find that the love comes naturally! In other words, when I understand that I don’t understand, life is much more loving.

  55. Life is a paradox. A thing is so and not so at the same time.

    It all depends on the perspective of the witness.

    From the man of clay vision, life is fearful, full of scarcity and wanting.

    From the vision of unity with all creation, the I am that I am, abundance abounds.

    We are on a journey between these two perspectives. The closer we get to the second one, the easier it is to choose the obvious.

    All the best,

    Jim : )

  56. I think the turnabout is:
    I am the secret

    Which applies nicely to both The Work and The Secret. The attraction discussed in The Secret refers to finding what makes us happy from within. To attract what we want/need most. Doing The Work helps to accomplish just that. The bottom line is the same: I am happy, I am love – that is my secret 🙂

    Peace and love to all,
    Sandy, Israel

  57. Hi,
    This is my thoughts on The Secret and The Work.
    They are both amazing. In my experience The Secret works. Things have happened through practicing the habits that are taught that seems well beyond coincidence. Its kind of like a garden to me, you water the seeds and they grow.

    My favorite quote to bring other elements of spiritual practice and The Secret together was from Eckhart Tolle. He says in Living the Liberated Life,
    “If you Feel, Act and Think as if you have something it will be yours. Now there are limitations on the physical realm, for instance if I wanted to be a heavy weight boxer that is not going to happen, but within reason, the universe will create through you.”

    I think the trick is to realizing that all the material stuff created will not ultimately bring happiness and its just the play of form. I guess his whole idea is that the play of form is great, fun and we can influence it, but not to look for one’s SELF in it. Then suffering occurs. And to me this is where The Work comes in. Things, experiences, money etc. become things we like, not things we need or should have or whatever suffering thoughts and feelings occur along those lines. It makes the universe a fun game. We strive to create, using more than just our hands but our other tools at our disposal, our thoughts and our emotions and its enjoyable. The outcome need not occur. Its nice if it does, its cool if it doesn’t and in that it becomes a process, a journey and not just a destination. It becomes a game, like a sports match, you get out there you do your best use all your tools and let go.
    And if I get attached I use The Work. In this as in all aspects of life.
    You see for me they go completely hand in hand. I create as best I can and live free.

    Love ya’ll

    Bryson

  58. This reasoning is much too complicated and therefore not convincing. As Johann Wolfgang von Goethe would say:
    “In limitations s/he first shows her/himself the master, And the law can only bring us freedom.” (from Was Wir Bringen – 1802).

    I’m intrigued at the sometimes vivid reaction from different thought schools regarding The Secret (which basically presents age old principles in a simple way and through the angle of various speakers). It’s as if they feel compelled to react or defend their “thought material”.
    Now, isn’t such a reaction a bit suspicious ? And wouldn’t that reaction deserve some “work” ?

  59. Hi,
    I really don’t believe that “The Secret” is contradicting the principles of “The Work.”
    The Work is an amazing, liberating (and very doable) process of becoming aware of the thoughts that we do have and then CHOOSING to keep them or let them go. It has grounded me and taught me to laugh a little more. It’s kinda like a having my own mental flashlight and the courage to look under the bed.
    “The Secret” is more about the Law of Attraction (check out the video, “What The Bleep Do We Know About Life anyway (?). “The Secret” suggests that we are co-creators of our life by means of our thoughts, beliefs and words. Even if we aren’t the thinkers, something is still thinking me; whispering divine ideas and fueling my desires to paint or start a business or buy a bling-bling item. I mean the whole world seems to be a result of an idea or inspiration or passion. (even the corvette is an example of someone’s exquisite concept of form and movement). It’s not just about amassing material things but creating your life, your story. It’s not asking us to deny our current or stressful thoughts and live in delusion. It’s inviting us to use our “imaginations” I mean, what if….. I think it’s fun to entertain big ideas of myself, stretch my conciousness, and maybe just like Jesus – Believe it is so. The world moves ahead by people who think this way. What if….It doesn’t cause me pain knowing I can’t have it because “The Work” has taught me to love “What Is.” I really think people will watch “The Secret” and will want to experience better relationships with themselves and the life around them and it will inevitably will lead them to The Work (law of attraction – right?.) The real question is can we live in reality and possibilty simultaneously? I’m gonna try.
    I am grateful for all points of view.

  60. There is a secret. I became so excited thinking about the turnarounds to this idea. What came to me was subtle and profound. There really is a secret and it is unknown, unknowable; it is what is before thought, with thought and beyond thought. When I have questioned my stressfull thoughts through inquiry, something beyond thought yet encompassing thought subsumes my identity/awareness. I can only describe this as profound peace from which everything comes and is. Does this make sense? Finding words to describe this depth is difficult for me rith now. Would enjoy comments if you have them at bmrex@comcast.net. Love, Barry

  61. Different people learn in different ways. I don’t think any one of was born with the book “Loving What Is” in our hands. The Work is part of what makes you or me who we are today. Everything we learned along the way contributes to who we are today. Why would any of us want to deprive someone else of any lesson they need to be where they are supposed to be? And who of us can judge the intent of the “creators” of The Secret?

  62. Hi, I’ve read part of TS and I’ve seen both of the movies. The original featured Esther and Jerry Hicks. For those of you who don’t know, Esther channels Abraham – a group of non-physical entities. I’ve been studying them for awhile along with Science of Mind. I am sometimes very negative and also can become upset about seeming contradictions between the many different “schools” of spirituality or psychology. I’m not very enthusiastic about The Secret. On their web-site, I believe the best thing to be the links to all the contributors because I do think they have a lot to offer. Now, there is no link on the website to Abraham-Hicks. Esther did not appear in the version of the movie that is now available. But, in the Abraham-Hicks writings, the emphasis is on “raising your emotional vibration.” They do say, though, that the most powerful law in the Universe is LOA. I’ve only recently become acquainted with TW and I definitely have an interest. I also have an interest in Oriental philosophy and Jungian psychology. I also respect many other schools of thought which do not emphasize getting what you want. I could probably go on, but for now that’s it.

  63. Dear Katie,

    The difference between “the Secret” and the work is very simple. It’s the difference between reality and fantasy. It’s the difference between accepting life as it really is and wishing it was different–of course it’s fun to dream of what could be, but eventually you have to wake up or we will have many more Virginia Techs…

    Keep up the good “WORK”…

    John Hazard

  64. The Secret is only “the opposite” of the Work if you’re stressing out about it. If it’s working for you, and you’re feeling genuinely joyful about life while using the techniques in The Secret, then I see no problem.

  65. The Secret is a hoax. It’s just a mish-mash of “believe and you will receive” junk. Are the people suffering in Africa manifesting their enemies? Did thought vibrations manifest the Virginia-Tech killer? Is suffering a result of negative thoughts?

    Conversely, is material success in this world a sign of divine blessings? If it is, then poor Jesus – he didn’t have the Secret.

    The Secret worships the God of Greed. How many of these Secret people are out there helping the poor and suffering? All they do is talk about materializing “a brand new car” and “brand new girlfriends.”

    Give me a break. The Secret is America’s religion – make money and rejoice because your money lets you know that God loves you.

    Back to Jesus. Remember he said that the rich would have a harder time getting into heaven than a camel would getting through the eye of a needle.

    The Secret is taking Americans on a ride, along with rest of the materialists around the world. What a joke. We want our answers to be simple. And what could be more simple than “Ask, Believe, Receive,” or whatever its is that they teach you in The Secret.

    BTW, I don’t know enough about The Work to talk about it, but I’m glad to see this debate.

  66. The secret is about manifesting one’s desires in life. I have experienced over and over again that it works, and was doing this even before I saw the secret.

    Nonetheless, the Secret is about altering your life to have what you want and need. The work is about transcending needs through acceptance so there’s nothing you need that you don’t already have.

    Practically speaking, if you would like to have your needs fulfilled, the work makes more sense, because it’s goal is to bring about permanent change instead of temporary gratification. Nonetheless, there’s nothing wrong with “using” the secret, but it won’t provide lasting fulfillment of needs (as the work is designed to do if pursued honestly and with dedication).

    In other words, the secret is designed to change the dream, but the work is designed to help you wake up from the dream.

    What are your thoughts?

  67. Dear human beings
    as long as i understand my life, and afcourse from my point of view only!!!
    i know that right now what i have is the best for me!!!
    as long as i’m hear every thing is good and when i won’t be here it doesn’t matter any more what is going to be. therefor i can’t live my life by tring to plan and think or tring to think what is going to be… as long as i understand: “second i can die or live” it’s just a matter of time.
    I live and love at this moment!!!
    this is the only thing i can do – this is the only bussiness i can deal with right now at this moment!!!

  68. I’ve known The Work for a couple of years now, and The Secret for a couple of months. If I go by physical reactions, I feel hyper and agitated about The Secret (there’s this building of tension about having to do something “right”), and peaceful and calm about The Work (the feeling is a peeling away instead of a building up…the getting closer to truth instead of the feeling of clamoring for it). I keep going back to, “What/Who would I be without that thought?….. and now?….. and now?..”. The deeper one goes without the thought or story, the truer things seem. The wanting ends because the “already is” has been recognized.

  69. I read Susan’s question and Katie’s response – including Stephen’s quotes. And I sat with it noting my thoughts and the resulting feelings.

    I resonant with Dan’s response, he says much of what feels to in alignment with The Work.

    It feels to me that to consider The Work and The Secret as opposites would be to fall back into the dream of separateness, of duality.

    Perhaps the best reponse would be to question any uncomfortable thoughts “The Secret” brings up.

    With all the current media attention – it is hardly a “secret” any more – is it?

    I particularly liked Dan’s last line “In other words, the secret is designed to change the dream, but the work is designed to help you wake up from the dream.”

    I could not have said it better.
    In love & peace,
    Donna

  70. Turnarounds:

    1) There is no secret.
    2) I am the secret.
    3) I have the secret.

    Step-by-step, as we do The Work, we find that the world is perfect just as it is. If there is a problem…it is with us. For me…the Secret has been a wonderful tool to reveal my stories of lack and my beliefs about the reasons I am happy (or unhappy). The Secret has shown me the ways I look outside myself for happiness…whereas The Work has shown me that true happiness is within me. I have found that using the techniques taught in the Secret cause me much stress…whereas The Work relieves stress. Both have been useful tools for my awakening…and I am grateful for them.

  71. If I apply the work to the oneliner:

    “There is a secret”

    The first thing that pops up in my mind is:

    “There are revelations”

    From closed to open and
    from single to plural
    it can be seen in nature
    especially in spring!!!

    Best regards to you all

    Daan

  72. a series of thoughts that surfaced…i really appreciate the opportunity to share. enjoy the flow. : )

    sometimes, i notice that when i DON’T get what i want, i’m actually more joyful and happy. The very thing that “I” desire for “more” could have just the opposite effect upon my life. Gratefulness conquers all wants for its the simple things in life that bring the most joy—like brushing your teeth. : )

    There are people in this world that have literally almost every material thing you can imagine with huge mansions and boats and whatever else…and they are miserable. On the other hand, you have people on this planet with almost nothing and they are the most joyous human beings. What is the difference? the one with many things THINKS that material things—by themselves—will make a happy life. the other has found happiness and love within.

    It appears that the Secret is based on “getting” what you want OUTSIDE yourself and “it” will bring happiness.

    I’ve found that just the opposite is true in my life…and this is what The Work points to: Happiness comes from within–from the Heart. its what we are–we are made of joy without any thought or concept—we are all unconditionally and without choice, completely One with All that exists at all times, without any separation and that realization is joy itself–its not something to attain—its what we all already are! No thought can ever match or compare to the incredible gift that we are—to that joy.

    i am absolutely and completely free when i notice that i don’t know anything…when the mind is free and empty of all concepts and thoughts, there is a grand opening. i realize that its not necessary to know about anything at all, and that the miraculous phenomena we call life is happening by itself…that the core of love moves all things and effortlessly serves itself in all its forms.

    there’s a beautiful quote that i really like:

    “we enter this world empty handed,
    and we leave this world empty handed.”

    We enter with no-thing and we leave with no-thing. the space in-between we use certain things, but really, we don’t even “have” them. We are more like “borrowers” of what we call “things”. i notice i am grateful for every little thing that i have and make the best use of it to serve myself and life surrounding. In addition, its not what you “do” or what you “have” that has the most effect–its what you are…its your mere presence that unconditionally emanates silent peace to everything.

    if you woke up in the morning and deeply felt that all is yourself,—that the whole world was your entire body with no name—you could not help but join and serve all life—because everything is YOU!! there is no fear left.

    “no longer afraid to die;
    no longer afraid to live,
    Compassion is the Way Home
    as the path IS the goal.
    Show me your footsteps
    as open Eyes can only see themselves.” JS

    another nice quote to finish:

    “possess all you want, but don’t be possessed by your possessions.”

  73. I have been helped greatly by doing The Work. It has enabled me to have clarity over certain issues and stress has just fallen away.

    I have also been inspired and helped by the message of The Secret, and I think that The Work and The Secret are totally compatible.

    The term “The Secret” is misleading as there is no secret. In the joyful game of life, we may create anything we desire. The message is that our thoughts create our reality but the reality seems to be that thoughts create our story. There is nothing right or wrong about appearing to create any story you want.

    The concepts described in “The Secret” are no different from any other concepts. Absolute truth is only found in the absence of all concepts and therefore is nothing, so there is nothing to find.

    When we do The Work, concepts are stripped away, leaving nothing, which is truth. But new concepts and stories are constantly (apparently) created, that is the reality. The Secret is one such concept and I am enjoying it for what it is. As long as I don’t identify my life and my being with it, there’s no problem. And if I do, there’s no problem either. I am just having fun with my story and I know that is all it is.

    When watching The Secret provokes anxiety or a negative response, it may be time for inquiry (or maybe not! – it’s all okay).

  74. Hi,

    I’ve met people who’ve read the Secret, but I’ve not had any interest in it. However, I’d like to share my turnaround for “There is a secret.” My turnaround is “I am a secret” or “My thinking is a secret”. This is true for me because I hide my opinions, beliefs and a lot of who I am from people. I hide because I often feel that my thoughts and opinions are not valid or worth anything to anyone. I also hide because although I know how I feel about things, I can’t explain logically to anyone else what I really feel and how I come to feel or think that way. So the turnaround “I am a secret” resonates truthfully for me, and it makes me sad and alone to think this way. When I don’t have this thought of “I am a secret” I feel at peace and whole. This leads me to the turnaround “I am not a secret”, or “There is no secret”. This thought brings me joy, freedom, and peace.

    My Linh

  75. Turn Around: The Secret is.

    This is the turn around that had the most meaning for me. The Secret simply is, it is when I start attaching my opinions to it, my idea of what it is and is not, my view of whether it is useful or unhealthy, my ideas about its relevance that it actually becomes something in my mind.

    Before that it is a piece of plastic with digital data on it, a DVD. When I start to attach to the content of that data and my thoughts about it is when I experience stress. And if I decide to argue with another person’s experience of The Secret and the thoughts and ideas they have attached to then it just becomes something bigger than it is and turns into a war. If I get something positive out of my attachment to my thoughts about The Secret then that is wonderful — if not then I have The Work to turn to and examine those attachments. Those attachments have nothing to do with The Secret, they have to do with my thinking about The Secret.

    The Secret doesn’t come sit at my dinner table and have a conversation with me, it just sits there on top of my DVD player doing nothing. For me to perceive it as anything more powerful than that (in the positive or negative) is my own thinking, my own madness.

    Thank you Kaite for opening this up, before I sat down and did The Work on this DVD I had VERY strong negative opinions about it and now I have none. Now I see that if others receive benefit from it then I am happy and if I don’t then I am also happy and have no need to argue with someone else’s joy — it just takes me out of my own.

    Before this turn around I could have debated into the night (and have done so) about my very, very strong opinions about it. Now I can see that it is just doing its job, being a DVD.

    Thank you so much, I am very grateful for this because I’ve just had my morning walk while working this in my head and enjoyed that walk all the more for seeing the world so clearly and beautifully through the turn arounds I came to. Blessings.

    Kylie

  76. I watched the “Secret” before being introduced to “The Work”. I have one question that very much disturbs me about the “Secret”. Thirteen years my daughter was diagnosed with an extremely rare genetic disorder that I had never heard of before. How had my thoughts, at the moment of conception, caused her to have a disorder that I had never even heard of before? My thinking, hopes, and dreams were all about having a healthy, typically developing child.

    All the people killed in the tsunami or during 9-11 or during the Holocaust manifest those tragedies into life by their thoughts? Come on – I don’t think so…..

    I, personally, find “The Work” brings me more peace and contentment in my life. In otherwords, I can question the thought – “Having a child with a chronic disabling condition is a negative thing” – with “Is that true?”. The “Turn Around” brings me a lot more peace than the guilt that comes with believing I was the cause of her disability by my thinking….

    I agree with Alphonso and his message.

  77. Is the “choice” here really the Work OR the Secret? Can’t it be both the Work AND the Secret? Do the Work – so you love what is, are grateful for what is, are not worrying or judging (without questioning those thoughts, which questioning brings you back to peace) – and then, the “Secret” (which is the law of attraction)works automatically to bring you more to love and for which to be grateful (and since with the Work you learn to love and be grateful for everything – it works!), and the Work does not preclude (as I understand it) thinking about having something “new” or doing something “new” – it just takes away the attachment to the having and doing, so whether or not you get it or do it, you are loving what is here now – you never know what tomorrow will bring, so no use stressing over it. If the Work precluded us from having a vision for the future, why would we bother to take steps ourselves to clean up the Earth, stop global warming? We can learn, with the Work, to love global warming for what it is – but it doesn’t mean we cannot choose to act or to see the Earth and climate being in balance (and ourselves at peace with what that balance may look like from time to time)
    The “problem” with the Secret – assuming there is a problem – is simply that it may encourage people to attach to outcome and not enjoy what is in the moment and it

  78. My favorite turn around to There is a Secret…..The secret is here…within me, within you… Tune in, find your answers for yourself, find your truths…it’s here!

    Dawn

  79. This comment concerns Katie’s Earth Day message, not her comments on The Secret (both were in the same email). I agree that it is healthier and more productive for each of us to look at what we are doing to respond to global warming, rather than to simply be angry at political leaders for their lack of action. I would only add to Katie’s message that working for a political response to the crisis is one of the things that we can be doing. While changing our lifestyles is important and helpful, those changes alone will not do the job. The United States government (as well as State governments) must create and carry out plans to cut carbon dioxide emissions dramatically, if we are to address this monumental challenge.

  80. The Secret, Sedona Method, The Work and all other “methods” are like everything else: TV, mothers-in-law, George W. Bush, cancer, health, money, lack of money, relationship, lack of relationship, the Virginia Tech gunman. Everything is here to show us the way home, if that is our interest. For me the difference is that The Work is the direct path to self-realization as opposed to other-realization. I never found consistent happiness through “stuff.” I begin to tap into that happiness through realizing that “no thing” is the thing I want most; peace in the valley, as Iyanla Van Zant says. The only way I know how to get there is through inquiry…not teachings, not manifesting, not “yogically detaching.” What could be more “vibrationally aligned” than loving what is?

  81. Katie,

    I don’t have any turnarounds yet, and I do want to share something else about The Secret. Issue One: I eventually saw the only reason I wanted to manifest material wealth was because of the way I thought it would make me feel. Issue Two: It doesn’t address how to heal our Heart. Michael Brown’s work (www.thepresenceportal.com) has been helpful to me in this regard.

    Parting thought…Buddha (no slouch) said all suffering is caused by desire. Well, Byron, I suppose there might be one exception (Is it true?) that exception being the desire for what is…

  82. 1) Secrets are great.
    2) I love secrets.
    3) My turnaround is a secret!
    4) My secret is the “turnaround”.

    OMG, am I even spelling the word correctly?!?
    S-E-C-R-E-T. . .
    “Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French secré, secret, from Latin secretus, from past participle of secernere to separate, distinguish, from se- apart + cernere to sift” – from Merriam Websters Online Dictionary

    In your own home you may sometimes have to keep The Work a Secret!!!

    With Love,
    Liz

  83. “The Difference Between The Work
    and The Secret”

    A simple exoteric perspective/model.

    I. A model of a human: several dimensions of existence (layers of aura).

    physical body astral body (emotions, desires) mental body (thoughtforms) casual body (Self).

    II. Two flows:

    a) from a plane of a lower frequency of vibration to a plane of a higher frequency of vibration:

    astral body -> mental body -> casual body.

    b) from a plane of a higher frequency of vibration to a plane of a lower frequency of vibration (and this is how we evolve):

    casual body -> mental body -> astral body

    III. Comparison.

    “The Work”: clears negative thoughtforms. This allows MORE Light to flow from Self, to refine and purify our thoughts, and in turn our emotions and desires.

    “The Secret”: new thoughtforms are created by our emotions and desires (i.e. by the flow (i.e. coming from the astral level to the mental level). Result: the mental level becomes less permeable. This allows LESS Light to flow from Self, to refine and purify our thoughts, and in turn our emotions and desires.

  84. I do believe we have everything we need or want at every moment in our lives, otherwise it would be different than it is. Do most people recognize that? Probably not. There focus is on lack. I also believe we play an important role in co-creating all of the experiences, events, people, etc…that come our way in each moment. All of them are for our greatest good on this journey of life. What The Secret over-emphasizes is creating material possesions, relationships, anything we think we “need” to fill the lack. It has been successfully marketed as a “create-anyting-you-want-wolf in misunderstood-sheeps clothing to a longing-for-more population”. The point that is not given enough attention is when we become truly esteemed and empowered human beings, the emphasis on the external becomes trivial and almost silly. We love what is and spend our days living in each moment. We no longer esteem ourselves by the clothes we put on our back, the automobile we drive, the home we live in. We have fun with life, we embrace each moment and treasure its beauty and teachings. That is the real secret. We have reached a higher level of existing that is more amazing than the car we thought would make us happy or the relationship that would cure our woes. An empowered and esteemed soul is unstoppable. That is where real freedom lives. And that is the truth. Haven’t we learned from enough people that possessions of all types never really bring happiness? As a last comment, it’s important to let others be where they are. And though it may silly running around putting your emphasis on creating something and missing the here and now, there are those who will use The Secret as a stepping stone to enlightenment. This may be the next tool they needed to graduate to a new understanding. Every tool has a purpose and this cannot be overlooked in The Secret.

  85. 1) My Linh: You’re definitely not alone. I feel this way too lotsa times [ actually, it oscillates between “i’m a meek invisible little troll, my opinions don’t count” and “my insight is waaaay too intelligent and these people can’t even begin to handle it” ], although it could be because I’m a Pisces. Either way, you speak my heart. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

    2) Uhmm,… I am just so frigging impressed with — and getting so much from — the caliber of people’s comments here, truly. Love Pirooz Kalayeh’s post and especially what Jamesn pointed out… the man’s got style. 🙂

    with the Secret thing…. who knows? Hell, I’m barely starting to figure out what’s going on with me and money — since I have done this so often, best I can figure is that part of me LOVES living paycheck to paycheck. (i.e. there’s a “payoff” in it for me …even tho it’s counter-intuitive) Why? What are the underlying thoughts that block financial prosperity and responsible-action with money? [ what the world says is responsible action anyways 😉 ] I asked different questions of myself until, walking down the stairs this morning, I came upon something!

    Running out of money is a way to bond with my parents and keep my family unit together. wow! that may just be one of the premises I was operating under all this time. — Now, “running out of money keeps me bonded with my family” — is that true? 🙂

    I’ll take those three little words plus an action verb before a carrot-dangling DVD any day. And you can quote me on that. (Right now, anyway.)

    All these great posts! Such awesome passages from: katharine, gary, hippo, bootie, brian ward, john richardson, cammie, bryson, jeanette, Richard Garry who pointed out that the Secret simply reminds us that “you are what you think”, dawn d., jacob s., andi, alphonso, kylie, Caroline. I also got alot from Mr T (ha), whose post reminded me to challenge some lazy assumptions and reminds me who is the sovereign, always.

    Also with Dan, who summed it up so incredibly nicely with “in other words, the secret is designed to change the dream, but the work is designed to help you wake up from the dream.” 🙂 🙂 🙂 Bobbie B. also speaks my heart.

    I think there can be some edginess in this issue because most of us here would love to see the Work promoted on a similarly large platform, as the Secret has. So we get a little huffy and disgruntled — what occurs to me is, “the Work is more deserving of that TV air time!” [ and I’m not feeling moved to question this thought, either 😉 ]

    Don’t we also get a little irked because we feel THE WORK is “the Secret” and thus feel all other methods are pretenders to this (secret) throne? At times I’m annoyed and at other times I think it’s cute that I’m such a cheerleader of the Work. (Maybe I can cheer without being a preacher… Never much took a liking to those guys.)

    But ya know, it’s the early 21st century, and people seem to be interested in stacking up with material acquisitions these days (including me, sometimes), so it’s right for this Secret thing to pop up, presented in the very exact way it has. It is reflecting something back to us. Nothing else on the collective level could probably be possible right about now.

    Finally, I love what Ashik wrote in on this issue the Parlor:

    “When God offers me omnipotence, the power to create whatever my mind can dream of (and that is the implied basis of The Secret), do I set my course towards the end of suffering for all mankind,… or a bigger house?”

  86. These are some observations on how thoughts affect material wealth. I work in the investment industry. My company has several hundred clients with many different thoughts about money and with similar investments. During the large market drop of early 2000 in USA, many clients trusted the strategy in which they invested and did not expect their investment performance to be radically different than the market in general. Other clients got very frightened and thought they would die broke. Did the clients with the trusting thoughts have better performance results than those who were frightened? No. Different investors in the same investment had the same results no matter what their thoughts were. Many of our clients have that good old Depression mentality about their money, and yet they are wealthy. They got that way through their consistant savings/investing habits, whether driven by common sense or fear. This is just an objective observation. And, who do you think was happier?

    I am grateful for all the many ways that people try to understand the mystery of life and all the methods they try in their search for happiness.

    I am happiest when I trust my own inner wisdom, and there have been many wonderful teachers along the way to help me get unstuck from my own limitations and mental traps. In the end, it always comes down to what is working for me and what is not. Choose what works. And then choose again and again and again 🙂

    Much love to all.

  87. Thanks for this post!

    “There is a secret” made me think of situations where groups of people seamed to know somthing what i did’nt. they laughed and where verry amused about the fact i did’nt understand of knew. this happend a couple of times and made me feel realy dumb and left out.

    They new a secret i did’nt.

    Thanks to this post i can examen my thoughts and believes…

  88. i believe there is too much emphasis here on the unfortunate title of this movie…the ideas presented in the movie are not secrets and never have been…at least to aware individuals. focus on this problem with the title distracts from the essence of the teachings which my own life proves, have merit. literalness of interpretation and focus on select portions of a piece skews its meaning…just look what its done for the bible! and written history and…and…

    my two cents,

    karen

  89. “The Difference Between The Work and The Secret”
    Byron Katie
    Here is my response regarding the difference between the Work and the Law of Attraction, popularly known as “The Secret.” First I quote from the letter posted on the Byron Katie website (http://www.byronkatie.com) and then I give my own understanding.
    Best regards, Ginat Rice
    The Secret: “You can have whatever you want.”
    The Work: “You can want whatever you have.”
    Ginat: These statements are not contradictory. The law of attraction says to allow what is and to fulfill your desires.
    The Secret: “My will be done. I know what’s best for me.”
    The Work: “Thy will be done (=Thy will is done).
    Ginat: There is no separation between I and Thy. We are the leading edge of Source, energetic shadows of God’s image (thank you, Achinoam).
    What’s best for me is what actually happens.” (In A Thousand Names for Joy, Katie says, “God’s will and your will are the same, whether you notice it or not.”)
    Ginat: What I vibrate actually happens. It’s not a matter of judgment (“best”), but of attraction according to my dominant vibration.
    The Secret: “You can control your thoughts.”
    The Work: “You are not the thinker. It’s not possible to suppress your stressful thoughts. But when you question them, they let go of you.”
    Ginat: There is no issue of thought suppression. The method is to recognize your thoughts by seeing how they are reflected in your feelings. Then you can choose to continue or change them. It sounds similar to the questioning and releasing method in the Work.
    The Secret: “You can manifest your positive thoughts as reality.”
    The Work: “Reality already is the best thing that could be manifested. When you realize this, you’re home free.”
    Ginat: Again, no issue of best or worst. Reality is the expression of your vibration. When you realize this, you can make a choice for the future.
    The Secret? So, let’s discover for ourselves if there really is a secret, if in fact one exists. “There is a secret”—is it true? I don’t know, I just don’t know, could be, and how would I know when I have found it?
    Ginat: The label ”Secret” is hype for mass consciousness, meant to sell an idea. Forget about whether or not it’s a secret. Focus on the content, the message.
    Wouldn’t it mean (if it were really powerful) that when I truly found it, my life and the lives of everyone I love, which is everyone on the planet without exception, would be perfect? That I and all of us would no longer have to suffer from needing, wanting, and shoulding, and would be excited and grateful for what we have as we watch more and more flow in as we need it and always on time, just loving what is here for us right now in this moment? Hmmm. Okay, let’s keep moving.
    Ginat: Yes, the more I am able to consciously create my reality, the better my life gets. I can’t focus on world perfection, because each person wants something different. Whoever wants to let go of needs, should’s, etc, can attract this or other teaching. It’s not possible to let go of desire, for that exists even on a cellular level. The universe is constantly expanding.
    How do I react when I think the thought that there is a secret and others know it and I don’t? I must live in a past and future that don’t exist as anything other than unfulfilled imagination, yearning for what I don’t have and believing that material wealth and better health are the key to my happiness, left out, isolated, unhappy, trying my best to get the things that I want and often failing and feeling like a failure. I begin to believe that I cannot harness this “secret” and end up with the same life that I started with in the first place, with or without material success. Who would I be without believing that there is “the secret?” Loving life, being “the obvious,” rather than being the secretive.
    Ginat: Yearning is far different from desiring. Yearning focuses on lack, which blocks energy. Material wealth and better health are not the key to happiness—flowing energy is the key. It is easier to flow energy towards a specific goal of something desired. But their manifestation is not the main event—it’s the joy that is needed to get there that is important. Why would you ever choose to feel “left out, isolated, unhappy, trying my best to get the things that I want and often failing and feeling like a failure…that I cannot harness this ‘secret?’”
    If I believe it and cannot find it, see it, bring it in as fact, then I cannot prove it to “myself” in this world. There is nothing that isn’t manifested by mind, everything is as we see it, and that isn’t much of a secret. It is only when time and ownership of “things” (and body is also a thing) are misunderstood that you attempt to dictate and manipulate these two factors (time and ownership).
    The secret is that wanting what I don’t have leaves me wanting what I don’t have again when I have what I thought I wanted then. I don’t need to map out a plan for the future, and I would if it made sense to me or if I needed to, but I would have to distrust the nature of the universe and myself first, and I trust “myself” totally without question to love all of life. There is never a limit as to what to do now, as what “I do” is what we all get, and it accumulates because I don’t argue, I follow the simple directions that are always kind. I don’t do later what I am to do now, and no one does. Later is now.
    Ginat: Faith indeed is paramount. We don’t need to fret over the future because our power is in the now.
    The secret is to love what is. I love what is because this “what is” right now is all that is and all that ever will be! Right now, not later, all my needs are met, all my desires, my wants are visibly in plain sight and my eyes are open to it, and the feeling is love and gratitude for all that is right now at my beck and call without beckoning or calling or having even asked for it, prayed for it, planned for it.
    Ginat: Yes, love the present. Take responsibility for having created/attracted it. And change your direction if you wish.
    I didn’t see Oprah’s show hosting the Secret guests, I was traveling, but I have heard from others that they more or less ended the show with two, maybe three, of the Secret guests showing their prior plans and desires, wishes, wants, imagining, imaging, making real in their minds whatever it took to “manifest” themselves as guests on the Oprah show and that is why it worked. There may be millions of people doing the same thing, just wanting to meet Oprah in person. They may really want to meet her with all their heart, and it isn’t enough. This could easily move into despairing thoughts such as “It doesn’t work for me, I’m doing it wrong,” and for some of you that I have met on the book tour, this opens the door to “I created my own cancer,” “What did I do to create this cancer?” “If I knew what I did to create my cancer I could uncreate it, and if I can do that it means that I never have to suffer again. I must know the secret or suffer and die unnecessarily,” “I am going to die if I don’t know the Secret; after all, the doctors say they can’t save me. What did I do to create this in me?”
    Ginat: Whoever is on the Oprah show has attracted that; no exceptions. As soon as you think, “It doesn’t work for me, I’m doing it wrong,” you muddle up the vibration of your desire, and it can’t manifest. What manifests is, “It doesn’t work for me.”
    Of course we each create our cancers and conditions. Responsibility = empowerment. We create our reality in our minds. “סוף מעשה, מחשבה תחילה”
    True creation is like this: There is no cancer until the doctor tells someone that they have cancer and then until they believe it they can’t have it. If they have never heard of cancer before, they must first be taught that it exists, and then they can believe that they have it, and that must be taught too. If they don’t believe it from the doctor, then the family has to teach them. We teach them to have it and then we teach them to try and get rid of it, and if they can’t, then they die. We have to teach them that they live first, though. If we haven’t been taught, how can we believe? And we ourselves create “it” (cancer, everything) the moment we believe. All the evidence shows that it’s true, and that is how the belief is held in place. The mind goes from nothing to crazy with fear (really crazy, sometimes). This is the way people create, reinforce, and maintain their beliefs: “I am going to die, they can’t save me, my children can’t make it without me, God is punishing me, I don’t know how to unmanifest my cancer,” on and on. When the phone rings and it is someone you love talking to, you are laughing, talking, enjoying life in that moment: where is the cancer in that moment? Do you have cancer or are you absolutely cancer-free in that moment? Of course, we are absolutely cancer-free until the mind brings back the unquestioned cancer story into reality. I use the term “absolutely” on purpose. The mind creates who and what we are when we believe our thoughts and experience the concepts, feelings, and images in our heads in the moment. This isn’t right or wrong, it is just so in the moment we believe what we seem to be experiencing as our identity.
    Ginat: Indeed!
    In my world, cancer has a right to live or die. Everything has a right to life and death, because I know what everything is, and its true nature. If “I” have cancer, that is my identity (that is who mind identifies me as) and as that identity, I may choose to have chemotherapy, do alternative medical practices, medical practices, change my diet, think positively, even though we continue to believe the “negative” unquestioned thoughts, the opposites of what we want to believe, even though we don’t want to believe them. We believe them until we don’t, and inquiry breaks the spell of “negative” thoughts and therefore what we negatively feel and believe. The negative thoughts, unless we question them, override the positive thoughts that we want to believe, and negative thoughts win out, and the positive thoughts are just powerful and ring true enough to make us feel better occasionally. They don’t work when we really are believing the stressful ones, the one that we don’t want to believe: “I have cancer, I’m going to die, they can’t heal me, my condition is hopeless, it’s not fair, I have created this,” etc. With or without cancer, my life is what it is, and I am grateful for that. With or without cancer, I am still sitting in this chair writing to you, and there are two ways to sit here. One is happy, and the other is stressed out.
    Ginat: Bravo!

  90. The turnaround that entered my mind immediately is
    “I am the secret”
    Believing that “there is a scret” sends the signal that it is still “outside” of me.
    I am the secret.

    So look within for peace.
    Benedikte

  91. I have done The Work on myself and found it helped. However I just came back from a Christian conferance this weekend which showed a DVD of the appalling suffering of children in Northern Uganda who have either been abducted by the LRA or are living in constant fear of abduction. Those who have been abducted have been traumatised by extreme violence. Are these children just supposed to “love what is” and continue to suffer.

  92. I love the Secret!
    I love the Work!

    I have a dear friend who is so excited about showing me her “Vision Board” (a poster board with “wishes” cut from magazine photos) and I join her in her love of discovery – and her manifestations of results…

    I have everything to offer by (naturally of course!) meeting her with understanding … her passion is contagious! I just can’t help but to join her in her “work”!

    Seeing her joy in discoveries helps ease the “reminders to investigate each thought” in my own life – if I could be so passionate/joyful about arising thoughts in my own life! What a teacher for me! What a journey!

    It all looks the same to me… Work… Secret… it looks like love!

  93. What I think y’all are discussing is the *marketing ploy* through which “the secret” is being spread around at this particular time. By calling it a “secret” – that creates curiousity and also parts people from their $29.

    Had they tried to get interest in something called “The law of attraction” that would be like the difference in selling KFC by “finger lickin good” vs “dead chicken parts fried for 48 seconds in 120C fat.”

    I don’t have any stressful thoughts about “The Secret” people promoting positive goal setting, focus on the positive in your life, let go of the outcome, enhance your level of personal responsibility.

    That they have spread this around – is I think good for all of us. The greedy will always hear the message as “I could get lotsa money and I don’t need to do anything!” and others will hear something else, like I did.

    I don’t visualize money or riches or BMWs… there are so many things so much more important to me.

    “The Secret” never said any thing in it was new. I don’t see anything new in it. Like I said – I think it is a promotional vehicle for whichever motivational speakers the producer chooses to invite to speak about it. And some of them are in some ways untrustable for me. That in no way takes away from the fact that I can benefit greatly by utilizing any positive things I can pick up from them or the others.

    Set positive goals, focus on the positive in your life, let go of the outcome, enhance your level of personal responsibility. (IE let go of living in the victim mode, no need to blame the world and everyone in it for “doing something to you”.)

    That is the message that I think non-greedy people hear from “The Secret” people.

  94. I’m not really surprised to see The Secret in the slipstream of the success of the Da Vinci Code. To me the book has the same look and feel. The Secret also seems to me a revival of ‘the American Dream’. Think yourself from a paperboy to a millionaire. It’s still possible!
    Abraham seems to be the driving power behind The Secret. That brings me to the turnaround. Ok, let’s think big and let’s push Jesus forward. “Only through the inner eye thou shall enter the kingdom of God”. The inner eye, the ability to look inside and find the kingdom, inner peace and abundance, here and now. This is where The Work is such a big help. Using your thoughts to go after more money and richness, or believing so, separates you from this experience:
    “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”

  95. Re The Work and The Secret. I see no problem. In the 1970s I discovered A Course in Miracles, in the 1990s I discovered Abraham, whose work is very much a part of The Secret. I embraced both, they have shaped my life, as well as many, many other teachings I have encountered over more than 70 years now. In the 1970s I did not have The Work. It was not time. Today I have it, cherish it and am grateful for it. How can I judge what is “best” and for who?

  96. Just finished using the first three paragraghs of Bryon’s intro to the Secret/the Work with high school students. Made a simple t-chart and had them summarize what the wording means to them. Next, taking the first 3 questions from inquiry, had students apply them to both sides of the issue. The students did a good job examining and creating examples of the different perspectives.
    Thanks for the lesson plan.

  97. The hooplah over The Secret is the way of it right now. If you subscribe to it’s tenets and they are causing you stress, then question your stressful beliefs about The Secret. If you feel that people shouldn’t “fall for” The Secret, then question that stressful belief. If you feel Oprah shouldn’t promote it and you find this stressful or slightly annoying, question it.
    Question, Question, Question or Suffer, Suffer, Suffer…

    In my experience, the Work does not compare to anything. It just exists as 4 questions to show me the truth; to point to reality. Inquiry doesn’t work parallel to anything. It envelopes the universe, holding all of what is in it’s embrace. That means: the Secret, The Sedona Method, A Course in Miracles, anything, all can be held up to inquiry when you feel stressful about it.
    Right now some people feel peace with these paths and that’s the way of it, some feel stress with these paths and that’s the way of it. Through inquiry, I’ve discovered that this is utterly perfect.

  98. Funny, I just realized I used “The Secret” to find The Work, here is how it happened:
    After failing in all of my goals one after another I became depressed I felt completely lost and abandoned- in desperation I cried out to life to help me and 10 days later by some “accident” I found “Loving what Is” before I even read the book I felt that this was the answer to my calling.

  99. I just observed when I saw the Secret that it encouraged me to notice my thinking on yet another level & I found it useful. I noticed my internal dialogue & turned it around when I was putting myself down. I have also been feeling like my life is over because of a prolapse & ruptured disks in my lower sacrum. After watching the Secret I connected with my power of thinking about myself & chose to think more clearly & positively. To see the oportunities in the moment. My daughter watched the Secret as it was a popular TV program being put out & it resonated with her & she is using her thinking to be more positive. She noticed more how she is thinking. She wouldn’t look at the work with me for almost 4 years now.
    I guess those people that are wanting things & are not really noticing their inner work will see the Secret as a way to gain things. I saw it as a compliment to what I am already doing to meet the inner as an extra helper. Especially with the thinking.
    My daughter noticed her thinking around the baby sleeping was that he should go down when she thinks he should. To noticing that if he isn’t ready he will fight going to sleep. She changed her thinking to meet the situation with kindness to both herself & the baby after watching the Secret.
    I think it’s all the Divine giving helping hands to bring us home to self any way we can that is good & resonates.
    If it encourages love within that works for me.
    Love Nayana

  100. Hi, Katie,

    I heard you on Lisa Garr’s show on KPFK a few weeks ago and was so impressed with how you walk the talk, and how open and upfront you were about your own struggles. As a fellow searcher, I agree with you entirely that we must live in the “real world” and before we do that we have to question what IS real. I got your newsletter message about The Secret. Thank you for commenting, as I’ve had many friends wanting me to see it, and I felt it would be as you said–all about will, ego and effort, when I have begun to know the joy of recognizing my will in God’s Will, which is perfectly open, and no secret, if we but look for it and believe it is available to us. There is no sacrifice in love, and love is all there is. That’s a radical statement, though, as long as we think “having what we want” means manifesting specific pleasures and achievements.

    Thanks,
    Val

  101. The Secret seems to be saying that there is cause and effect. However I can’t find proof that it does exist even though Katie seems to be saying that it does exist. For example she has said that “body
    follows mind”, and at the 2006 Mental Cleanse Katie said:

    “We have found a way through these questions to give grace to ourselves all day long….
    That’s the infinite mind allowed it’s freedom. But when we’re stuck in our thoughts that’s mind that is stuck. And it is very painful and then the body takes it on like old age, sickness, and disease.”

    It seems from this statement that if we question our stressful beliefs than we can avoid stressful situations, such as old age, sickness, and disease. However is this true? I don’t think so. Even Katie who seems to have questioned all her thoughts is afflicted by disease. (Of course Katie doesn’t see her disease as a problem or as a disease.)

    So what is causing the disease? I don’t know. It seems to be something completely out of our control. Even the ability to question our thoughts and the effectiveness of that questioning seems to be out of our control. As Katie says:
    “We believe our thoughts until we don’t?”

    What causes the attachment to a belief to be released? It seems to be something way beyond our intention, attitude or action. Something not within our control.
    The Secret may seem to work but as Katie has said: “positive thinking works until it doesn’t.” And this is my experience.

    The real secret seems to be loving what is. It seems to me that what is going to be – is going to be. (And this includes working to make life different and believing that we can change things.) We are wealthy, healthy, and peaceful when we really see every thing as perfect as it is. And The Work seems to help us love what is.

  102. Hi,
    the turnaround for me to “there is a secret” is “there is an openess, an evidence of a clearly visible reality, there are no secrets other than we create in our story-telling mind. If i think there is a secret there is one, if I don’t, there is none. What is the advantage to believe there is a secret?
    What is the advantage of not believing there is a secret? Our minds are happily digesting their own creations. As soon as we use language to express the unspoken, the unformed, the connected, the world without cause and effect, we move to a virtual world of concepts and manifest an “I” and then we can play with our virtual creations and discuss them forever and most of the time it’s good fun and I like it. With “the work” I have realized the virtual game I’m in when I use language, thoughts and an “I” and I have come to enjoy the vibratingly full, yet “I-empty” moments of the unspoken, unthought, “un-I”, thanx, Katie, so much for everything you do!!!!! Nothing in my life (and there was quite a lot of desperate searching)has moved me so deeply and opended my eyes to reality so much then the inquiry!!! Thanks!

  103. Dearest Katie & Stephen
    You are such sweet folk who are precious to me and have been for years. Thank you for your comments on death and dying today. I have progressive heart disease and heart failure and I live alone. It is very common for heart patients to be fearful and I have been, thinking what would happen to me if I died or died alone and then after I died, what happens then? It’s a bit embarrassing since I am a professional holy man and I am supposed to know these things and comfort others. But the truth is sometimes I am afraid of what will happen to ME. Your words today were comforting and I love you like always. And I love you, but only always 🙂 Phil

  104. KT & SM: I guess it has become important at this point to know that I KNOW NOTHING! Because…I DON’T…[is that true? more true than not] The older I get [or the deeper I go] I realize that what I’ve held as beliefs are letting me go. Whether there is a difference between the SECRET and the WORK…I don’t know! and you know what … for the first time in my life … I don’t have TO KNOW! and it is entirely OKAY! Thank you for the opportunity to see this in the words before my eyes.

    c~marie

  105. Feeling inspired to comment again on this – after so many comments here 🙂

    The comments surrounding seeing ‘The Secret’ as just the title, rather than literally doing the work on ‘there is a secret’ have really helped me.

    What I’m seeing is that for me there’s a a whole bunch of thoughts that come up about ‘The Secret’:

    Firstly, the way it has been promoted:

    They shouldn’t be marketing it as a secret
    People shouldn’t be so interested in it
    It shouldn’t be all over the place
    The Secret book shouldn’t be out-selling ‘A Thousand Names For Joy’

    Then there are thoughts about the content of ‘The Secret’ – thoughts like:

    The law of attraction is a pile of crap
    People that want a better life/material stuff are superficial
    I cannot control my thoughts

    And then I notice there are even thoughts about the individual presenters, for example:

    James Arthur Ray is a sleazebag and cannot be trusted
    Bob Proctor is a con-man (and cannot be trusted)
    Joe Vitale has a fake degree (and cannot be trusted)

    And to be really clear on these last 3 statements, these are just the thoughts that come up for me – no evidence of any of these things – all just stuff I make up about them – my stuff, not really abou them at all.

    In fact just surfacing these thoughts has changed how I see these people.

    Lastly, I could also look at:

    I don’t ever want to hear about ‘The Secret’ again 🙂

    (Always funny to see what a possible turnaround is going to be….. “I look forward to hearing about the Secret again’ – oh boy, my favorite!)

    Wow, so much material from just one book/DVD – what a gift ‘The Secret’ is – revealing so many of my secret thoughts, prejudices and beliefs.

    I really am looking forward to hearing more about ‘The Secret’ now – the more the merrier!

    With love,

    Jon

  106. Since many years, I noticed that every “teacher” I met, who got his/her insights and developed his own method, sooner or later fell into the trap of his ego. (With one exception, I think that Ram Dass is the only one who went beyond his ego, yet I don’t know him enough to say).
    It was sad for me to read “The Difference Between The Work and The Secret” issue. It showed me how BK and her followers are trapped in their ego. I have nothing against TW, on the contrary, I think its a very good method for living beyond the mind (I know that BK defines it a bit different). Yet, I don’t see any contradiction between “The Secret” and TW. For me, both are completing each other, much like many other methods. Actually, the only space who can find contradictions is the ego, while using the logical mind. Taking “The Secret” only literally and logically – much like taking TW only literally and logically – is taking 5% of it.

    It was Ram Dass who said once – “There are many ways to the top of the mountain and the interesting thing is that they are all arriving to the top of the mountain”. The ego can’t stand such a statement.

    I’m not relating to the first letter (of Susan). I understand that Susan is one of BK followers, and, well, many followers have this attitude of “being more religious than the Rabbi”, especially when they are trying to impress the Rabbi… therefore, I’m relating only to Stephen’s thoughts and above.
    I also didn’t relate here to the content of TW and “The Secret”, I think that anyone who is commited to his/her personal development can use both methods in his own way.
    For me, integrity is a leading value in life, especially when it comes to the personal development path.

    Love & light
    Eitan

  107. What Katie has given us through the Work is a real Secret, a treasure. Why I would call it a secret, although Katie keeps nothing secretive, she keeps unveiling the veils of illusion for us? Because what she’s been telling us and showing us is so simple and so obvious that our mind cannot believe it. We have to help it with the four questions. In my experience the Work is a direct way to our true nature, to the Light. When I’m in the present and stay there, when I love what is, I tap into a fountain of liquid gold in my heart, of sweet joy and freedom and I really LOVE what is, I can see beauty all around me, in every human being, in every form of existance.
    As a comment to the Secret vs. the Work, let me quote the beloved Osho: “If you seek, you have taken a wrong standpoint. In the very seeking you have accepted one thing – that you don’t have that which you seek. That is where the fault lies. You have it; you already have it. The moment you start searching for something, you will become neurotic, because you cannot find it – there is nowhere to look, because it is already there. /…/ In our very seeing, the truth is hidden. In our very search, the treasure is hidden. The seeker is the sought – that is the problem, the only problem that human beings have been trying to solve and about which they have been growing more and more puzzled. The sanest attitude is that of Lao Tzu. He says, ‘Stop searching and be.’ Just be, and you will be surprised: You will find it!” (Everyday Osho, 365 daily meditations for the here and now)

  108. “There is a secret”—

    Turnaround for me personally is “There was a secret”.

    1. I love unconditionally always (even when I’m stressed out and upset). I just didn’t realize this truth until last week. I can’t not love what is. To love what is ~ IS my true nature and no investment in fearful thinking can change that.

    XXOO

    ps. It’s great to see so many posts!

  109. love loves love lovingly.

    the moment i realized there is absolutely nothing to realize, i became free. whew!

    i love what it is. and i notice the unchangeable, thought free awareness of it all. it always is what it is. the birds sing, the trees move. the birds? the what? the trees? what a funny name. i love this blog and its not even a blog. i love this desk/platform/name-less “thing” thats not even a thing that holds this laptop, and oh God, these small hands allowing typing to occur. and this single breath of air…ah…everything is a gift to itself by itself without any effort.

    here’s the Ultimate Open Secret that remains behind it all…it will just blow your mind. “I know nothing!” the mind that knows absolutely nothing is forever free and unconditional.

    peace.

    j

  110. I’m astounded that Katie has chosen to so publicly down something. Perhaps too all of those people who criticised TS then admitted they hadn’t even watched it might have a look so they could make an informed comment. Also I noted that sooo many people said it was about getting what you wanted. If they went deeper into it they would hear that use of the word “want” is not encouraged because wanting usually brings more wanting. Katie seems to be contradicting herself. I thought after a brief encounter with the Work (which for a while I found very beneficial) that her main thing was acceptance of what is. The Secret is. Isn’t it? I think that Everyone is overly focused on whether or not it’s a secret or not. Who cares? Why is that aspect so important? Maybe we should debate whether or not the Work is Work. That’d be fun! I mean frankly I found it to be work, but others may see it as play. Yes I know. Does work have to be negative? This is a lot of fun tho and very thought provoking. Years ago, in my previous searching, I was told that arguing is a no no because then you were trying to manipulate someone to see things your way. Inquiry: is this what’s happening here? I must say tho I find it heartening to see so many who have similar thoughts to mine. Quote from Katies last paragraph. “I WANT everyone to come to understand what so many of you are coming to understand about the ease of internal life.” Sounds a bit like deciding for all the flock what’s best for them. Some more food for thought:- Is there a bit of separation happening? Is there a bit of focus on duality? Ok by me. I see it all as a challenge and an indication of my next step. Great to see the many things reflected to me. WOW!!!Love and hugs to you all!

  111. The Secret: “You can have whatever you want.”
    The Work: “You can want whatever you have.”

    Both are lies.
    But both can be your personal truth, if you choose that. Your personal truth, if you choose that these thoughts increase your peace, your joy, your wellness.

    What’s the difference?

    The Secret: “My will be done. I know what’s best for me.”
    The Work: “Thy will be done (=Thy will is done). What’s best for me is what actually happens.”

    What a fabolous capers to say the some thing: we are creator of our life!

    What’s the difference?

    The Secret: “You can control your thoughts.”
    The Work: “You are not the thinker. It’s not possible to suppress your stressful thoughts. But when you question them, they let go of you.”

    You are not your hands. But you control your hands to do what you want to do.

    Again, what’s the difference?

    The Secret: “You can manifest your positive thoughts as reality.”
    The Work: “Reality already is the best thing that could be manifested. When you realize this, you’re home free.”

    This is the gratitude. This is one of the feelings that feeds the joy and other positive vibrations in your totality, and permit your positive thoughts to become reality.

    What’s the difference?

    We have the power in our totality. What lie do you choose that increase your peace, your passion, now ? The secret ? The work ? What lie do you want to manifest ? Is it a lie, then ?

    The best possible, for everyone.

  112. Dear Friends,
    I read in your forum about the debate: The Secret vs. The Work, or The Work vs. The Secret. Well, I tell you, in the end everything dissolves into nothing, into the void, recycled. My will or Thy will, anything. So, what’s real? Nothing, the Void. Everything is also real, but relatively. Then, each way you choose it makes no difference if you remember… Happy journey.
    Rev: Dr. Andrea Sandesh Scarsi Msc.D.
    http://www.metafisicando.it

  113. Just like to say to Jacob Salzer that in my copy of the secret they are telling people that first they need to be in a high state before attempting to attract anything. Being in a constant state of gratitude for instance. Maybe you didn’t watch the whole thing? Maybe your state of mind at the time of watching caused you to miss all the positive bits and only remember what fit in with your belief system about materialism. ie. Rich people are miserable and poor people are happy. Also If you don’t want material things nobody will force you to have them. The process for becoming more in touch with the Source is identical to that of attracting wealth. We are advised to feel gratitude, raise our vibration, give, meditate and use the sedona method and E.F.T.or other techniques. In general, do exactly what most of us are already doing to connect with the source, but in a much more focused manner. You seem to have understood it back the front by what you are saying. They are not saying that its the things that make us happy but our happy state of positivity is creating the attraction. There are also a heap of very happy, fulfilled billionaires. And a whole heap more miserable. suicidal depressed broke people.

  114. I see no contradiction between the Work and the Secret. The contradictions that people are seeing here seem to me to arise from an incomplete understanding of the teachings of Abraham-Hicks, for which the Secret film was intended as an accessible, but incomplete introduction.

    Let me comment on those quotes from Stephen and add my understanding of Abraham teachings:

    The Secret: “You can have whatever you want.”
    The Work: “You can want whatever you have.”
    Me: Where’s the contradiction here? They’re both saying that having, wanting, acceptance and happiness occur together. Are we going to disagree over the semantics of which one comes “first”? Abraham teaches that no good emotions or results ever come of wanting in a negative sense (ie. yearning, longing, desperately wanting). The Work agrees and gives us tools to question the wanting.

    The Secret: “My will be done. I know what’s best for me.”
    The Work: “Thy will be done (=Thy will is done). What’s best for me is what actually happens.” (In A Thousand Names for Joy, Katie says, “God’s will and your will are the same, whether you notice it or not.”)
    Me: Abraham also teaches that each person is an outgrowth of Source Energy (or “God”). It is impossible for you to want something that God doesn’t want for you too. Again, they’re in agreement, just disagreeing about who comes “first” – the whole or the part (which also contains the whole within it entirely). This difference is again just an illusion of time and semantics.

    The Secret: “You can control your thoughts.”
    The Work: “You are not the thinker. It’s not possible to suppress your stressful thoughts. But when you question them, they let go of you.”
    Me: What is it then that questions the thoughts? If you couldn’t “control” your thoughts then there’d be no questioning and no answering and therefore no Work. It’s the same part of you that puts you thoughts to Work as that can also focus thoughts for creative purposes. Again, they’re both saying the same thing, whether we label what happens “control”, “focus” or just “happenings”.

    The Secret: “You can manifest your positive thoughts as reality.”
    The Work: “Reality already is the best thing that could be manifested. When you realize this, you’re home free.”
    Me: Abraham also teaches that where we are now is perfect for us, because it is a perfect manifestation according to the law of attraction. They would not have us suffer less (or more) than we do, because they understand that there is value in the experience of contrast that causes the whole universe to expand, evolve and become an ever greater expression of Source Energy (or God)… greater in its own eyes, that is. There’s no absolute greater here. Abraham also teaches that resisting reality results in negative feelings. The Work only questions thoughts which are causing suffering to us. Happy thoughts go unquestioned. Likewise Abraham guides us towards finding ever happier ways of interpreting reality, to bring us closer to Source, and it is their knowing that when we are closer to Source that wellness will flow into our lives naturally. Again, I can’t see a contradiction.

    Peace,
    Greg

  115. I see The Secret as a tool – a motivating tool.  I have watched the DVD twice, get the newsletter, and even heard a one-hour interview/podcast of the author/producer Rhonda Byrne.  The first time I listened intently and took seven pages of notes, not even sure I was open to the over-hyped message.  I jotted scripture verses in the margins that coincided with the philosophies.  I tried to be open and listen, yet maintain diligence for contradiction to my religious beliefs.I too was disappointed that God wasn't mentioned for the first 78 minutes or so, but He finally was and it was OK.  I agree – New Age delivery of an old message taught by success coaches for years.  Extremely commercial.  A money-maker for sure.  But…there is truth there that cannot be dismissed because the messenger is not what we hoped it to be.  Truth in a package that minimizes deity, but delivers a good message nonetheless.There was one hole in the process I found unsettling – the part about putting that wish out to the Genie/universe and waiting for results.  It somewhat contradicted that "faith without works is dead" principle.  I likened it to desiring to publish a Best Seller without sitting down at your keyboard – it just ain't gonna happen.  That concept was clarified in the Byrne interview – she essentially said that you have to really put it out there with all your being, etc. and that you put everything in motion (i.e. –work) to make it happen.    She did a good job setting that straight .A few people are going to make a lot of money in the selling of the hype, tools, and lessons, but does that diminish the message of self-actualization or rising above our (self-imposed) limits?  I don't know – there are examples all over the place about mentors and gurus and experts and businesses delivering good information and motivation for a hefty price.  Is The Secret any different?I reconciled this for myself – you do what you want.  I even host/moderate a weekly podcast about The Secret and talk about various principles as applied to real people and real lives.  And I do not hide my belief in God, nor do I belabor it.  Principles that are correct and useful are something we need to be taught and be constantly reminded of – in order to live them.  I think the most difficult part of The Secret is the title – it sounds…dumb.  If you see it as a self-help guide about becoming our best selves it's easier to stomach.Anyway, this is my comment, for what it's worth.  Great blog, Leigh – it kicked off some excellent discussion. 

  116. Hi Katie – I just commented on The Secret on the blog of a fan of yours on Active Rain – I will post here as well, but with one addition: It is difficult to comment on something unstudied. More research would strengthen your position. If you want to know about Roses, don’t ask an Engineer, ask a botanist. If you want an opinion on Jehovah’s Witness as a religion, don’t ask an ex-JW – ask someone who loves his faith and lives it. Here’s the comment, in it’s entirety:

    I see The Secret as a tool – a motivating tool.  I have watched the DVD twice, get the newsletter, and even heard a one-hour interview/podcast of the author/producer Rhonda Byrne.  The first time I listened intently and took seven pages of notes, not even sure I was open to the over-hyped message.  I jotted scripture verses in the margins that coincided with the philosophies.  I tried to be open and listen, yet maintain diligence for contradiction to my religious beliefs.I too was disappointed that God wasn’t mentioned for the first 78 minutes or so, but He finally was and it was OK.  I agree – New Age delivery of an old message taught by success coaches for years.  Extremely commercial.  A money-maker for sure.  But…there is truth there that cannot be dismissed because the messenger is not what we hoped it to be.  Truth in a package that minimizes deity, but delivers a good message nonetheless.There was one hole in the process I found unsettling – the part about putting that wish out to the Genie/universe and waiting for results.  It somewhat contradicted that “faith without works is dead” principle.  I likened it to desiring to publish a Best Seller without sitting down at your keyboard – it just ain’t gonna happen.  That concept was clarified in the Byrne interview – she essentially said that you have to really put it out there with all your being, etc. and that you put everything in motion (i.e. –work) to make it happen.    She did a good job setting that straight .A few people are going to make a lot of money in the selling of the hype, tools, and lessons, but does that diminish the message of self-actualization or rising above our (self-imposed) limits?  I don’t know – there are examples all over the place about mentors and gurus and experts and businesses delivering good information and motivation for a hefty price.  Is The Secret any different?I reconciled this for myself – you do what you want.  I even host/moderate a weekly podcast about The Secret and talk about various principles as applied to real people and real lives.  And I do not hide my belief in God, nor do I belabor it.  Principles that are correct and useful are something we need to be taught and be constantly reminded of – in order to live them.  I think the most difficult part of The Secret is the title – it sounds…dumb.  If you see it as a self-help guide about becoming our best selves it’s easier to stomach.Anyway, this is my comment, for what it’s worth.  Great blog, Leigh – it kicked off some excellent discussion. 

  117. More comments from the same blog – slightly edited – relevant here:

    There is no doubt The Secret is the epitome of super-hype and mega-marketing – and all that whispering on the video is like nails on a chalkboard.

    Millions want the magic diet pill: Take this pill, lose 30 pounds, get muscle tone and rippling abs, and have corrective surgery – all in one night while you sleep! That ain’t gonna happen, but it seems to be what everyone is buying. The fine print says to avoid eating three hours before bed, to exercise 30 minutes per day, and to avoid foods high in fats and sodium – nobody want to read that – the part they need to do. We all want to just “Be”, so it sells and sells.

    The Secret’s principles aren’t new, just repackaged. The plain brown wrapper that represents work is now all shiny and high-tech and covered with flashing LEDs. More people will buy it, but will they buy into it and actually change their outlooks and focus (which takes work!) and self-limitations? Maybe.

    The real estate community is teeming with people who are entrepreneurs and self-actuating business people. The overwhelming majority of the members are non-salaried. We have to rely on what WE can do, not what others give us. I think to many, the message of The Secret seems trite – we ALREADY are doing many of those things. We forget the average person is not.

    I cannot agree more – too much talk and not enough action does nuthin for nobody.

  118. Katie and all other lovers of reality,
    I first learned about “the secret” or law of attraction through Abraham-Hicks. I then learned about The Work, which was a major help, as I reach for the “better feeling thought.” The Work has also helped me with the second law of the universe as expressed by Abraham-Hicks – the Law of Allowing. I then watched The Secret, and felt uncomfortable with the beginning. I would have liked them to emphasize our feelings more, talk about the Law of Allowing, and include The Work. (It is interesting that Abraham-Hicks was taken off the revised version). In spite of all this, I think it is a great DVD and a step toward bringing more peace, harmony, and love into our lives.
    I think we should all look at the similiarities between The Work and The Secret. I have done The Work on this thought and turned it around so that “I should look at the similarities between myself and all other beings.”
    Thank you so much for coming into my life.
    Sharleen

  119. Did you actually ever read The Secret?

    I am just curious if you truly understand what the book is about or if you are commenting on it because of what you’ve heard about it?

    I’m interested to know. Would you kindly reply?

  120. It’s funny to read all the comments and find my ego responding to one and resisting to another idea in a search for what is right or true. I even thought about bringing in the Avatar courses of Harry Palmer, which would fit perfectly as a topic for a similar discussion: What is the difference between the work, the secret and Avatar, (all three focusing on thoughts and beliefs as bricks of the wall of our ego and how to deal with it to get (loose?) what you want or want what you get. Again I realize that whenever it comes to language and thoughts there is an “I” and as soon as there is an “I” I’m not “online”, not connected anymore, but “off-line” in the world of concepts, in the world of right and wrong, of good and bad, which feels stressy, not peaceful and most of all I’m sitting in the basement while outside it’s a sunny, wonderful day. So for the moment I prefer to go “online” again, love to you all! Sepp

  121. Maybe it is understandable that some people who posted ‘against’ TS did not really understand The Law Of Attraction, that is at the core of it. TS doesn’t bring the story in complete depth. I would suggest to look at TLOA as teached by Abraham-Hicks. Those teachings give perfectly sound explanations of how events and experiences happen. (Even thousands of deaths in a tsunami (Death is bad, is it true? Death exists, is it true?).) TLOA IS NOT about getting stuff. It’s universal, it just IS. Being aware of it offers tools for improved experiences, growing empowerment and increasing joy. The key to happiness is accepting what is (yes, TW really helps at that). Only than you can vibrationally allow into your experience whatever it is you want. And all the stuff you perhaps wanted comes along, though you might find out that that isn’t that important after all. You cannot help but have preferences and desires; that’s natural, just don’t focus on the lack of it.
    In my experience there are no real contradictions between TLOA and TW. Just the angle of approach differs a bit. Loving what is? Of course, you created ‘what is’ yourself.
    (TW is better that TS, is it true? TW is from another source than TS, is it true?)
    They are just two of the many many way’s the unnameable presents itself. To me they are complementary and I love them both!
    And I agree with one of the early posts: “Te Secret” is not the best of names, as it isn’t a secret at all. (It attracted our attention though, didn’t it ?) TLOA is just the universal force/law that manages events. I really feel kinship with all the posters that focus on the similarities instead of the differences. That really is the message I would like to spread.

  122. Interesting debate: In the end, I think both The Secret and The Work are about awareness that thoughts are significant in our lives & the world, both are about choice, both are about setting intentions & being willing, and both are less about changing the world/more about changing our minds about the world (to quote M. Williamson). From there, it is possible for peace, joy, love, abundance can ripple forth.
    Thanks,
    L.

  123. I don´t know if the problem is my English, but I just get lost in words. In retoric. Some people don´t seem to make up their minds, they just twist words and make themselves sound smart but their point, what they really mean, it is not clear. At least not to me.

    I haven´t seen the Secret but I´ve read about Law of Attraction. And it is nothing new under the sun. By the way, we can say exactly the same about the Work. From Epictetus and even older than that. And, without going that far, we could mention the Option Method, the one founded by Bruce di Marsico.

    All of them are helping the people to rise their conciousness, and also they are into marketing and selling.

    How can I know that is true? Well, I can not. Certainly I don´t know nothing. It just seem that way to me. And, by the way, I don´t believe that´s bad at all. It is a lot better than making wars.

    But my point is that maybe, just maybe, we should laught a bit at the Work and not take it that seriously. It really start to sound like we are the Iluminated, the Ones who Know and the 4 questions are written on stone.

    How in the world can you say that rape is not a bad thing (or at least “Bad?” “How can you know that is true?”), say nothing about Irak and other problems and, on the other hand, be so critical with The Secret?

    Are we loving what it is or just what we are?

    Besos y abrazos para todos

    Niolus

  124. I am happy to have my “secret” feelings regarding The Secret somehow validated by this spirited debate. I liked some of the concepts, about abundance and positivity, unlimited possibility, and the philosophical quotes were great…but I was soooo turned off by the images of the chick manifesting the gold neclace, and that guy pretending he was driving a sports car, gag! I love what Katie says about sitting, standing, or lying down, it’s the story we tell ourselves about it. What makes sitting any better if it’s in a souped-up sports car? What makes standing any better if we have a gold necklace dangling around our neck? These material items may provide pleasure, but they are not rewards for a blessed spiritual life. Where we had the extremists who renounced lifely pleasure, here we have the other extreme, who feel that physical and material wealth is not only caused by knowing a “secret” but the result as well. Strange. I like the Middle Way. If you pull the string too tight, it will break. If it is too loose, it will play off key. The Secret was way off key for me. And now, it is no secret. Sitting, standing, or lying down, I am enough, with or without the evidence to prove it to others. That is my business, and God’s business. For those who like and promote The Secret, that is their business.

  125. dear readers,

    it is wonderful to see such truthfull searching,but the secret as presented is actually a danger rather then a blessing.

    the danger lies not in the knife but in the hand that uses the knife.

    each word spoken,each image created,each word , each thought is judgemental.

    it will take from it that what will strenghten its own believe system.

    truth is not of mind,mind that is coloured by earth life experience,and will seek of itself for itself wether it is desire fear or any other emotion.

    there have been warnings about meditation,but often taken to lightly,do not pick up what is found on the way for it weigh,s you down and not reach the sky.muchlike drugs can create a altered state will still judge by a colored mind.the secret is like giving a car to someone who does not yet have his licence to drive.

    john B

  126. The work and the secret.

    Dear seekers,

    The eternal secret is my consciousness that wants to make sense of what it is to be at life.

    If you want to change your reality, it is possible only after you know it. The work helps to receive it faster and clearer.

    After accepting you reality and you want to feel success at every level of life the secret gives you the belief everyone has this ability.

    What all this teachers do not explain is that you need a deeper motivation, and that this motivation is from suffering, the most of these teachers went through a mental suffering and in the process the EGO died. In this process there was a new understanding, and transformed in to a system for others to comprehend.

    If we would not have the communication systems of today I would not know about all this great insides, even so that all this wisdom is inside the bible there is very little translation of today’s needs.
    If you have the time to read this and learn about yourself, you are one of the lucky ones.

    Most of humanity is in survival mode, and being one a spiritual path is blessing but also a suffering of going to the next level. Technology and science are part of overall self understanding of what it means to be human.

    Your thinking is your reality, change it and your live will change, have negative emotions and the result be destruction. Have positive feelings and you will be a builder and healer.

    On a larger scale, the teachings will continue to advance and bring new systems to the marked. At the end of the day it is you and only you that is the reality and you have to decide what is working for you.

    I like Caroline because she keeps it simple and clear, but to implement it takes work. And in the name of humanity I thank her for bringing this to the world.

    Al Baur

  127. The secret is – there is no secret! It is a movie encouraging living in the moment, in appreciation, which creates appreciation. Thoughts in kind, follow in mind. Philosphies are here to help us shift our own realities beyond shame, blame, guilt into forgiveness and love. Each offers something for some, not for others. Openness is allowing all truths for all people. Fear only contracts us. I am grateful for all who step into healing venues to guide us in our own light. We have to remember it is our “light” to own.

  128. The Secret and The Work complete one another. One is about being positive and asking for it, and the other is handing us the tool – the ‘how’ to do it.
    both are generous gifts, given to the masses. I thank you for that. Talya

  129. It was very interesting to follow the controversy here and to see how people have made of such a nice tool as The Work is something really religious that is in competition with other tools.

    To me it is very simple: What works works. Let people debate about the rest.

    Indeed I think even with this nice method there is a flaw. To find that nothing has to be changed is restful for the individual but it would be death to change. So, why not use change and be non-attached either?

    Meanwhile I have changed my method of approach. I use three steps:

    At first I use EFT on a wish, thought or feeling. Why doing mind work when things can be solved on an energetic body level?

    With the stuff remaining I do the Sedona method because I think it is an excellent method to use the energy that is behind ones thoughts to change what can be changed and simultaneously get free from attachment to the outcome.

    What then still is remaining I do The Work with it.

    This step-by-step method gives me the opportunity to change things and also gives me the awareness of being unattached by what is going on.

  130. One of my turnarounds is:

    “There is a universal knowing.”

    That’s what I love about TW…I tap into the “universal knowing” that is within me and I return to reality, to love, to peace, to God.

  131. One of the most refreshing aspects of The Work, and specifically of “A Thousand Names for Joy”, is that they don’t try to teach you how to “obtain” some”thing”.

    Except Peace. Bliss. Joy( and don’t forget the diference between happiness and joy). Thank you again, Stephen and Katie, for putting all of this into words for me.

    All my love to all of you, always.

    Marie

  132. Whether or not there actually is a difference between The Secret and the The Work, I know that it’s a good thing that Katie has contrasted the two. If tomorrow I unexpectedly find myself learning the Secret that would be good, and if I find myself ignorant of the Secret for the rest of my life that would also be good.

  133. I think the Secret and the Work aren’t in contrast. Thank to the Work you start healing your mind and then, thank to the Secret you start attract weel being, peace and whatever you really want. It is beautiful loving what there is but I personally want to have more and to be more, I want to expand, and that’s what, in my opinion the secret is telling: you attract what you’re feeling. In my opinion first there is the Work (to heal you) and then the Secret, that helps you to continue to attract what your real You wants and wants more!
    Laura

  134. I love the work’s profundity. I also sense it is big enough to include the Law of Attraction. Part of what is for me is that I have preferences. When hooked on drugs I preferred sobriety. This leads to divine discontent, a useful piece of what is, perhaps not fully acknowledged in the work Not all desire is escape from what is; some may be my destiny calling. The work need not exclude seeing value in the Law of Attraction.

  135. The real secret is in learning how to not argue about the secret or the work. Learning how to be instead of make arbitrary differences between ‘this’ and ‘that’ as though the two could ever be separate and different in reality.

    The real question to ask yourself is, what to do right now? What do you want right now? And even if you think you know what you want right now, think again until thinking drops away, and whatever is before you is exactly what you wanted all along.

    Love.

  136. I see the law of attraction working in my life. I attracted The Work! I was struggling with past issues that were haunting me and draining my energy. I realized that I wanted to find a way to release these thoughts/feelings (after two years it was time…). The next day I was listening to a conference call with Jack Canfield and he mentioned The Work and Byron Katie. I found the website and began a journey to be free – I learned that I did not have to get rid of the thoughts – inquiry would cause them to let go of me! Such blessing!

    I wondered at first how The Secret and The Work could co-exist. I personally find love, hope and peace in both. My conclusion (so far) is that for me, the secret is the sails on my boat which move me forward. If I don’t have sails up – focus on what I want – I go nowhere. The Work is what cuts loose the anchors so my ship can move forward. When I am attached (anchored) to thoughts that hold me back and drain my energy, I do not move forward no matter how many sails I put up. Both are needed. Certainly a person can turn “focus on what you want” into “I should have” and cause needless pain and stress. But it does not have to be that way. Desires do not have to become resentment and anger. Just as fire can warm us or destroy us.

    I laugh when I think about the marketing of The Secret! If they had called it “The Obvious” our society would have ignored it. Do the work on the thought: “people should not have to be marketed (tricked) into realizing that they should focus on what they want instead of what they don’t want”. But, it is true that they minds of many people are closed. What is a “secret”? It is something unknown. So you see, The Work is also a secret. Both The Work and the law of attraction are becoming known… and will not be secret, but who will use these tools? This is what will matter.

  137. Don’t you just love how ‘The Secert’ has got us all discussing whether we have the power to create our own realities.

    If you are at peace with yourself then does it matter? What story are we telling about ‘The Secert’?
    Personally I think and feel it is great and has come at the right time.

    We are all at drifferent levels of Spiritual growth and for a large amount of the population this movie has brought hope and the realisation that they have the power to step out of suffering.

    One day they might be open enough to discover Katie’s work. But until they do I am grateful that Spirit is using all avenues to bring us home to our trueselves.
    It is all perfect just as it is right now. What a great story.

  138. Katie
    Your comments were all very confusing and complex to me. Can you sum it up in a nutshell? I miss seeing you in Salt Lake City, and I am sorry that I can’t afford your new conferences.
    You are wonderful and I will continue to listen to the tapes that I have of you!

  139. Everyone:
    When I originally sent this letter to Katie several weeks ago, I felt clear about it, having done lots of inquiry around my thoughts about the movie. Then, right after I hit the send button, I read back over it. I realized I had not yet turned the letter around, especially the statement:
    “I don’t understand how someone who has The Work can take this movie seriously.”
    I turned it around and the humility rushed over me like a tsunami. Of course! I was the one taking the movie seriously! The most valuable thing I have learned from Katie is that nothing serious is ever going on. All the charge I had around this issue completely fell away.

    What I most noticed in my work was that I had been labeling as “wrong” people who used EITHER The Work or The Secret as a tool to get something or change something or move toward something. I realized how often I do that by falling into the illusion of time and space. It is so much more difficult for me to answer the questions when I do The Work with the motive to change something. When I am clear, I work with my thinking strictly from a place of curiosity.

    Note for Mr. T:
    I was on a massage table the other day noticing my thoughts. An “I want” came up. I asked myself: Is it true? “Yes, yes, yes” was my first answer; I was thoroughly convinced. Then, it occurred to me to add: Just in this moment — right here, right now — Is it true?

    The effect of this question was that I immediately dropped into my body. I noticed the support of the table beneath me. The warm hands gliding across my back. The smells of the oils: lavender and sandalwood. The soft guitar music coming from the CD player. Total bliss. I noticed how my wanting had taken me away from the present moment, from truly experiencing my massage.

    Had I answered: “not yet” or “not until I do” to my question, that would not be enough for me. I’m not going to let my mind get away with that. I want to go deeper. I want to know the truth. I wait, and the answer arises. “I want…” is it true? Final answer: “No, I prefer to be in bliss now.”

    If you have not experienced this I can see why you would say The Work doesn’t work and label it a “semantical parlor game.” The Work only works for those who truly answer the questions.

    I am grateful for this forum and the gifts it is bringing me.
    Susan

  140. As A Course in Miracles says: You can have the “Song”, which is God’s Will, and which brings with it all the “echoes” which are the song’s manifestations within the dream.

    Or you can go after whatever echo you believe will bring you release from the particular desire you are experiencing.

    What we want is release from the experience of believing we don’t have.

    I think The Secret, and the whole “You create your own reality” movement is a rung in the ladder to understanding that our minds are not in the world — the world is in our mind.

    Arguing over its validity is like arguing over whether first grade is more valid than kindergarten. It’s all leading in the same direction.

  141. I think it’s a colaboration. The secret says like atracts like. So toughts with a negative emotion or negative toughts atract other negative toughts. When you do the works, negative toughts can let go. And positive toughts (toughts that create a positive feeling) can be in your experience. Like attracts like so the happy feeling can result into happier toughts and so you create a happier reality. So in my opinion you can do the work and feel “happier” or notice you’re feeling unhappy and learn to feel happy about your reality right away.

  142. Is there a Secret to the Work? I am completely at sea because of the inception of Facilitators. It is unnerving…like there has become a Secret to sharing the Work with others. It feels devastating…Is It True? Not absolutely, but I am doing the Work with people every week and now since I am not a certified facilitator, what am I doing? Before the sudden appearance of Certified Facilitators, I knew that Katie was different. Now I feel like Katie, you have sold out to other people who want to profit from your Work. Is that true? I am inquiring.

  143. Along with Jane S. Jones I have concerns over the direction the “organization” seems to be taking. I have seen so much fussing and fighting break out in other “paths” of helping. As the copyrighting, certifying and otherwise “owning” started in other “paths” that I have experienced in the past so did the divisions, fighting, and bitterness. When I found that Katie did not present herself as a guru of anything I was so hopeful. I did not see her as someone who needed to own anything. Oh well, I can be at peace because it is not my business anyway.

  144. Dear The work community

    In my experience the secret is attemting to explain a theory, a story, a tool. Just as Einstein made the story of relativity, wich has been used in various ways, the story of The Secret story can also be used in various ways.
    In my experince, as I have actively been trying the secret out, it has worked (I asked for a new sofa, washingmashine, shoes etc. and it came in a very convenient way without having to go shopping) it can never make me more happy or content than beingness itself, but it works for me and I think its fun, try it for yourself, maybe starting with a cup of cofee…;)
    The homepage of The Secret is by the way http://www.thesecret.tv

    Lots of Love from Maneka in Sweden to all of you

  145. Question: Whose business is The Secret?
    Whose business are the people evangelizing about it? Whose business are the many thousands currently buying into it?

    Question: Katie’s ideas about reality are “better” than Rhonda Byrnes. Is this true? How does feel to hold onto this story?

    Question: What does LOVING WHAT IS include? Does it include loving the fact that THE SECRET is getting more press and selling more books than THE WORK right now? Does it include loving that Oprah is courting Rhonday Byrnes right now, rather than Byron Katie? Does it include the fact that after reading THE SECRET people are trying to figure out how to CHANGE reality rather than merely ACCEPT reality?

    Question: When we argue with a point of view being expressed by some people but not us, who are we really arguing with? Are we arguing against them? Against ourselves? Or are we arguing with what is?

    Question: Is there any situation in which the teachings of THE SECRET are true or appropriate or both? Are there any situations in which the teachings of THE WORK are untrue or inappropriate or both?

    Question: Is there a meta-perspective from which the principles of THE SECRET and those of THE WORK are both useful. If THE WORK is thesis, and THE SECRET is anti-thesis, what could the SYNTHESIS look like?

  146. I am an ordained minister and throughout my life I have had prophetic dreams that would later manifest, and my late Grandmother did also. An example, my late father in law, just days before he was killed in a house fire, ~ his death was revealed to me through a dream. I did not manifest this; nor did, he, I know. I have foreseen many things regarding people that lived down the street or were neighbors of friends, and they have occured as revealed. I have been told by higher beings to have total acceptance in all things. That is Faith. Faith is more than believing that a deity exists; it is letting go of attachments to outcomes, and believing; trusting and accepting all that comes, knowing it is for a purpose. That is not what The Secret falsely lures one into erroneously believing. Live in faith and trust that whatever you are experiencing today was planned long before, I assure you.

  147. Jane asks the question whether those of us not “certified” can share the work with others. I for one have shared it many times, sometimes in a formal setting with the inquiry sheets, more often applying the questions in general conversations with others. I’m not certified (and don’t intend to spend the time nor money to get certified). I just apply The Work as the situations come up, both with myself and with others.

    Scott

  148. Dear Katie,

    If I understand your teaching right you say that the outside world is reflection of the inner world and we see the world through our beliefs and thoughts.
    If we question our thoughts and the thoughts let go of us so the outside world would reflect it back to us.

    So The Secret is teaching the same thing – thought creates reality.

    Love,
    Tomer

  149. Dear Katie,

    I recently replied to Jane S. Jones’ post and hope to share with you some honest thoughts. I have bought all of your books, some both in hardback and the CD versions. I love the work. And I love you as well.

    There are some questions that I have (truly meant in love). Is this the Work of Byron Katie or the work of God through Byron Katie? Is Byron Katie the center? What is all this about? Is there non-duality in this? Are all these “ownership” things and labeling of some facilitators as better than others your idea or the idea of some around you? This is non-duality? I have to admit I have had Katie on a pedestal. I apologize to you for that.

    I still love you, Katie, and offer to always be honest with you if you want to hear it. And, yes, I can see the turnarounds for myself. And I still want to be honest with you about what this all seems like from outside your “organization”.

    Truly sincere,

    Ron Faulkner

  150. I love Jane’s comment about certification – yet again it brings home to me that everything is a reflection/projection.

    Not that it doesn’t mean that it is or isn’t ‘true’ – Byron Katie may well have sold out – but is that my business? No.

    Hell, I can even find some reasons why it might be better if she has! 🙂

    It is my (painful) business if I think that’s true and I believe it should be otherwise. And where do I sell out?

    Although even just plaiyng with this has me question this whole concept of ‘selling out’ – how can that be possible?

    And thanks for raising this Jane – more and more I am struck by one particular Katie-ism:

    “Everything happens for me, not to me”

    The Secret, certification, money, the ants, my left leg’s pulled hamstring – there are no exceptions.

    With love, Jon x

  151. What I love about all of this is I am reminded that The Work is simply Four Questions and a Turn Around. That’s It.

    Good to know for me. I have to keep things simple. Really simple. LOVE U ALL!

  152. I would like to thank you for promoting The Work. I have been doing this for a 15 years now. When I read your books earlier this year It gave me lots of additional ways to help people transform. In my humble perspective it is not the work verses the secret. Both are completely valid and are not in conflict at all. Neither approach will work for many people because both assume you are at a certain spot to start. Katie had done a lot of struggling to get to a point where she was willing to accept reality. If the work was eerything we could teach all the children and every one would be in bliss. It is a path to this state of mind and it takes time and I know the works is a wonderful give to help many further along the path. Thanks you all for being brave in our attempts.

    Peter Stedman
    Toronto

  153. The Story behind Certification —

    The way I see it is that there are far too many people doing their own version of The Work out there. Like anything that’s successful, there are many copycat versions of The Work. I won’t name any names, but you know who you are.

    My story is that KT is creating this certification program to make sure that there is an “authorized” version of The Work out there. That way if I want to do The Work with an authorized person, I can. And again, I may choose not to.

    KT isn’t saying don’t use non-certified facilitators. She’s simply saying these are the people who have been certifified.

    That’s it.

    Now I ask: “is it true?”

  154. Note for Susan B and anyone else interested…
    thanks for your patronising comment suggesting that I just “don’t get it”. I have experienced many occasions where I experienced bliss after enquiry but to paraphrase Tony Robbins – you can live in bliss 24/7 no problem but if that’s all you do then eventually people are going to take your furniture away. At it’s best, mere bliss is all that the Work gave me. The Work is not for everybody, as Byron K will tell you.

  155. I have read all of byron katie’s books as well as The Secret and I would have to say the main difference between the two teachings is that The Work is about how you don’t know anything and The Secret is about deluding yourself into believing that you can know things.

    Buddhism and byron katie says that all thoughts–be them negative or positive–are born from fear. So ‘the secret’ is also born of fear. And this is where things get confusing and complicated because in Buddhism the first noble truth is that life is suffering and the 8 fold path is all about how to avoid suffering.

    The Work, The Secret and Buddhism are all basically about how to avoid suffering. The Work says you can avoid suffering by not believing your thoughts. The Secret says you can avoid suffering by only thinking positive thoughts. Buddhism says you can avoid suffering by following the 8-fold path, which largely comes down to not believing your thoughts AND applying right effort toward right thinking… ie thinking good thoughts. So Buddhism is kind of like a mixture of The Work and The Secret, plus some other stuff depending on how far into it you go.

    “Think -> Feel” -Byron Katie
    “What you think about and ponder upon will be the inclination of your mind” -Buddha
    “Thoughts are the forerunner of all things” -Buddha.

    Anyone whose knows the secret knows that it totally says what both byron katie and the buddha said. This means that either some of, or ALL of, the secret is inline with buddhism and the work. But at least some of it is. That’s your proof. So consider this before dismissing it.

    Now let’s forget about the work and the secret and buddhism for a minute. The “have” is not as good as the “want”. I want more money, but will i be happier when I have it? probably not. Everything i’ve ever gotten i was only happy about for a short time and then i forgot about it because i wanted something else.

    Byron Katie is awsome, no doubt about it, because she has said many times to even questoin what she has to say “Byron Katie knows everything, is it true?” “The Work will transform my life, can i absolutely know that?” No we can. All we know is that we don’t know.

    The secret *feels* good because when we’re doing it we’re thinking positive thoughts which in turn makes us feel very good. There’s nothing wrong with this, optomism is well researched and proven to have a healthy impact on your life. It’s tricky because it’s all ‘feel good’ stuff and that’s largely just ‘pleasure’ which any wise person knows isn’t the main great thing in life. It’s a carrot dangling by a string.

    In summary: If you want to feel good and not mind deluding yourself to feel good (can i absolutely know that that’s a bad thing?), then The Secret is for you. If you want to be in line with reality and feel all the things that there are to feel in this world then The Work is for you. If you want to try both then they’re both available to you.

    ~namaste

  156. Dear Jan Harrison,

    I see your point. I don’t know anything about the Secret or whatever the issue is that calls for identifying who is or who isn’t blessed. The point I take from the Work that I love is that peace is good. Division helps us toward that goal? Is that true? Taking up sides will make the world a better place? Is that true? My story is that someone’s ego is getting in the way of peace.

  157. Of course the Secret is a huge success. It is offering the idea that somehow there is a formula out there, the secret potion, that will fill people’s holes..you know the ones, we spend all day trying to fill up with things, lovers, therapies, even the work, even sickness, anything but feel the hole…and the hole is not even real, just a tracing of a moment when we were not met. So its all a great game of ‘pass the parcel’, I know that game well, I spent 48years playing it with myself, wrap this problem up carefully, pass it on, miss it, get it back, identifies who I am, and then i woke up, jumped out of the loop, and saw that i am the loop, and i am the observer, and the coffee still tastes good. I am residing in a body, in a planet, in a country, in a living room, and I hear a bird singing in the trees and feel the sun on a leg, and its time to pee. be here now.. thats the secret. big love

  158. 1) The Secret: “You can have whatever you want.”
    The Work: “You can want whatever you have.”

    I don’t see any reason you can’t do both.

    2) The Secret: “My will be done. I know what’s best for me.”
    The Work: “Thy will be done (=Thy will is done). What’s best for me is what actually happens.” (In A Thousand Names for Joy, Katie says, “God’s will and your will are the same, whether you notice it or not.”)

    If my will and god’s will are the same then i don’t see any reason that believing thta i know what’s best for me is a problem.

    3) The Secret: “You can control your thoughts.”
    The Work: “You are not the thinker. It’s not possible to suppress your stressful thoughts. But when you question them, they let go of you.”

    I don’t get how I’m not the thinker. Even to do The Work I need to conciously be able to question my own thoughts, that seems to be the same force required to visualize what I want for the law of attraction.

    4) The Secret: “You can manifest your positive thoughts as reality.” The Work: “Reality already is the best thing that could be manifested. When you realize this, you’re home free.”

    I don’t see any reasonon why trying to manifest what you want and mixing in accepting it should be a problem.

    Why must it be all or nothing, one or the other? Who said life is a compeitition? I find it much easier to just use as many great tools as I can. The Work, The Secret, all good. The four questions will hold me whenever i’m expecting too much.

    namaste

  159. I belief that I Am an individuation of God, the creator, and am therefore the creator of the experiences of my life. I was born into the collective consciousness of mankind and was carefully taught the ideas, thoughts, religious beliefs, and fears that pervade the third dimension experience here on Earth. Until I realize that I can create different experiences by changing my thoughts about my thoughts and experiences, my life will continue on in its predictable course of victim consciousness and judgements of others. How then can I change things?

    The “SECRET” introduces the Universal Law of Attraction and explains its use. It also, without mentioning their names specifically, introduces the Universal Laws of Allowing and Deliberate Creation. I would like to point out that “The Work,” successfully encompasses the use of these three Universal Laws and it’s success is based on their successful application.

    The Law of Attraction:” Birds of a feather fly together.” The Work attracts people who will benefit in some degree or another by doing the work. It attracts loving people who stand ready to share their successes in doing the work with others who will embrace and benefit from “The Work,” for themselves. “When the student is ready the teacher will appear.” This magic happens on a level that is unconscious to most of us. People coming to the work, are attracted by the truth that rings clear to them. This Universal Law of Attraction is also the basis upon which all nature functions.

    The Law of Allowing: When one does the work the success of their living the turn around is because they “Allow” this change in their life. Were this not a Law that can be understood and consciously and emotionally applied it would not have the power to affect the changes that happen when doing the work. When we want to change we begin by making a simple conscious effort to Allow that change or turn around to take place in our lives. If one does not allow the change or turn around to take place then it is only a thought that has no power to change. When we consciously allow the change to take place in our live, we also allow or program our creation auto-pilot, over time, to create events and thoughts that support and cement that change. This is a continuing activity of this marvelous and powerful Law of Allowing.

    The Law of Deliberate Creation: Thoughts create the experiences of our lives. When uninvestigated our thoughts may create stressful feelings and events that make our lives unhappy. When we investigate a thought in the work we learn that stressful thoughts can be turned around and it gives us a process to change our life experiences for the better. When we learn to Love What Is, we embrace all of the events of our life, both what we judge as good and what we judge as bad or evil, and receive all things with gratitude and thanksgiving. Loving what is does not exclude the truth that we can change by choice and desire or by preference, as Katie puts it. Usually we create by auto-pilot from the collective consciousness of mankind and make ourselves out to be victims of fate or whatever. When we understand and accept responsibility for our own creations, we can then, choose what we want to Deliberately Create through our own thought processes. Is this not doing the work for ourselves? Is this not recognizing and living the turn around by choice? Is this not the process to realize we miscreated something we do not now want and then deliberately recreate some thing we do want and then allowing our God self to manifest that change in our life?
    Whether the “Secret,” comes from ancient manuscripts or not, and whether it is presented in a way that looks entangled with economic gain or not, has no bearing on the laws that are introduced by this movie and book. How we use these laws of Attraction, Allowance and Deliberate Creation in our own life is our own choice. If a proponent of “The Work,” understood these laws and their application to “The Work,” there would be no opposition to the “Secret.” because the same laws are in effect in both processes, just differently applied. How one applies or uses them will determine the successful changes within ones own life, the changes that have been chosen to be made. My thought is this, if you “do the work,” first, you will then make better choices of what to create or change in your own life. Through inquiry, the true desires of ones heart can be sought after and found. To know ones heart may be the greatest peace one can gain. Regardless, loving what is, embraces both processes because they are based on the same true laws. They are not mutually exclusive. Success in either process one may choose is determined by ones desire for thought inquiry, the honesty of ones judgments, the quality of ones investigation, and the successful application of these Universal Laws. This to me is a pleasant and peaceful thought.

    Ron Giles

  160. As I read all these entries, I am struck by the sense of ownership of ways of thinking. My experience says that we all have the way, the work, the secret within ourselves.

    I feel a sense of pride and ego here. Why are we wasting time trying to say which one is better, easier, more pure, more affective, more Godly?? Perhaps each of our ways is a beautiful blend of many approaches.

    I know that each day I am open to learning and seeing new perspectives I am blessed with growth. There is no one way. there are many ways. each way personal. It is up to each of us to find our own ways. I work with people each day to find the knowledge within themselves.

    When we are able to see and recognize each other as creative, resourceful and whole, we will build a world that is respectful of each of our paths. As we grow in love and acceptance of ourselves and each other, we are able to build relationships that are built on equality.

    Relationships that are built on equality are relationships that last. They support growth, creativity, passion… the list goes on.

    My favorite definition of humility is this, I am no greater or less than my fellow. As we each share our experiences, we are able to see new ways of thinking, processing, experienceing. These ideas get in the soup with the rest of our thoghts and form our understanding of the peiece of knowledge.

    This beautiful unique blend called me, is what I strive to love each day. Each day I am able to see me as a beautiful, child of God, I am able to step into relations with others. The interflow between me and the world is what what created for me. We are meant to interact and be affected and shaped by the world around us. We are naturally evolving each moment. That is the beauty.

    There is no right way, there is just the way each of us is present to. I hold the space for each of our ways. I pray that we realize we journey together, ever realizing we are not alone.

    Namaste, Florence

  161. Thank you Florence, it is so beautiful what you wrote.
    Tnx.

    Eitanism: Clinging to “The Work” is just like clinging to any other thought – loss of freedom.

  162. If I gave you a recipe to bake a cake and it only baked a cake 1 out of ten times, wouldn’t you question my recipe?

    I think for something to work it must be universal and apply to everything, not just somethings, sometime, maybe.

    Like gravity, and like a precise recipe for baking a cake it’s consistent across the board and works reliably all the time.

    The problem with TS is that it doesn’t work more often than when it does.

    When it does “work” and you supposedly get what you want, “the secret” is the hero, when it doesn’t work it’s your fault, you’re not doing it right.

    That’s like saying the 1 time out of 10 my cake recipe bakes you a cake the recipe works! but the other 9 times it didn’t bake a cake you did it wrong…

    Why does the “recipe” for TS not get any scrutiny for not working? only the baker does when it doesn’t work?

    I don’t know any baker that would take any odds better than 10 out of 10.

  163. Dearest Katie and World Family…

    Asking is Good… Questioning is Good…

    Does Spirit Need Anything?
    Does the Universe Need Anything?
    Does GOD Need Anything?
    Things come and go…
    Are we not Eternal?

    Peace to All…
    Pale Eagle

  164. hi all. I attended katie’s workshop in dublin. it was wonderful. she is lovely. Can i ask the family to comment on the secret with esther hicks work in it. as i didnt see the first version.

    all my love to all here
    zahid

  165. the secret is, that the work doesn`t realy exist, the secret is, that there is nobody who does the work, the secred is, that all that is , is behind thinking and there is nothing. I Love this nothingness, the birthplace from all that seems to be. With great respect and Love to all of you,,and dont forget ..letting fall all ideas into nothingness. Pardon my english

  166. I love and do the work. I am an artist and have exciting thoughts and dreams and love to translate them into physical form.
    The movie “The Secret” talks about visualization and gratitude both.
    Sometimes when I create, it begins with a visualization…
    I see it as possible and then I create it as I have visualized or not. These visualizations do not always come out as I expect them to be and I share them, break them up to create something different or whatever may be. I find joy in both visualizing my dreams and loving what is.

  167. This is a fascinating dialogue. Thanks. Yesterday I watched Oprah’s show ‘The Secret behind the Secret’, and was both ‘attracted’ and ‘repelled’, and the net effect was zero!

    Perhaps at the ego level, the biggest payoff is from a method or secret that puts you in charge and control! So long as you believe that, it feels like all your problems have ended because you can always attract what you want. And even if you fail once, all you need to so is learn the right way, and you will succeed. This is very reassuring to the ego. Seductive even!

    In one sense I welcome the secret because the only place to go from here is to reality. As Katie says, life is kind, and lovingly guides you to the truth, again and again. Someone who comes upon the secret, is bound to come upon the limitations of the secret. And when that happens, perhaps a trapdoor opens and the love of reality underneath and behind everything is seen. For when such a powerful tool as the secret, which puts you in control of your fate, fails as it must, what is the recourse except reality? No more traps for you anymore. You fall straight into the lap of reality. And there you live and love.

  168. Hi everyone I have an interesting question regarding the old saying “everything happens for a reason”.

    What about Karma?

    I was fortunate enough to participate in an early session of The Work and it was the clearest weekend of my life.
    My question is how do you compare fate to reality if you are a positive individual?
    If you are a positive being wouldn’t you not rewire the “the work”?
    I truly felt I was lifted up during my weekend in the sand, but how do you make sense when tragedy strikes?

  169. Wow, my wife had a great point: the circle of life = GOD.
    How about this… the work could be deciphering what you attract (the secret) and dealing with it (the work) and moving forward.

  170. Dear Byron Katie: I love your teachings in The Work and share it w/many of my clients. I have been a licensed psycho-therapist and student of Buddhism and meditation for 30 years. My book, JOY, No Matter What, is going into its second printing later this year. It parallels some of what you teach in Loving What Is and A Thousand Names for Joy. I would be honored if you would be willing to endorse my book for its second edition. I would love to send you a copy if you would email me your address.
    Thank you for your consideration, and most of all for your teachings.
    Sincerely, Carolyn Hobbs

  171. So nice to see Carolyn’s comment here.

    Just want to say that I’ve found Carolyn’s book, Joy No Matter What, very useful alongside The Work – helping me to open up to what I am feeling and allowing space for it, which in turn I have them been able to look at and use The Work on.

    I would recommend it to anyone that is interested in bringing more love and acceptance into their life.

    And thanks Carolyn – we’ve never met, but I do have some friends that have worked one-on-one with you.

    With love,

    Jon

  172. Nitza:

    TW is the way i find out how my own answers are always what set me free of my suffering. Before the work i would listened to everyone and didnt find freedom after TW i still listen but with a different ear my ear…I was lost without the cofidence to trust my own discoveries. TW has helped me to trust my inate intelligence wich is timeless and always available…TS though me that is possible to have it all …the work tought me that all i want is already in front of me waiting to be discover. It is reality solid and always available to be discover as what i want…reality dont run away..is there and is perfect and i love that it waits for me to understand ..if it was less than that it would not help me because it takes my mind some time to catch up and understand that is all i was looking for ..reality is just perfect…

  173. Thankyou so much Byron for confirming what I already know inside.

    While many things seem to be reducing in my life and my dreams and desires seemed to be causing me too much pain, the secret just pepetuated this. Revisiting what you say has stopped me ‘wanting’ and ‘desiring’ something that is not here in this moment.

    The secret to me is about using a law to attract something that is not here in the now moment, its wanting something in the future and I realise this does not work. From reading your books I recognise what I need in my life is here, if it was not what I need it would not be here. When I need something else it will be here no amount of visioning, dreaming and creating will make this any different. Its so freeing to realise, what I need, is here, NOW.

    In many ways it was the fear of letting go of my dreams that kept me in struggle and to realise if I fear losing my dreams I have already lost them really brought it home to me.

    So thankyou!

  174. I see it this way:
    The Law of Attraction (as Abraham-hicks explains it in the way I understand it:
    Use the Ego-wantings to connect with the Now. When you visualize you are in the now pretending that you already have what you want and enjoying it. That will connect you with your Inner Being, who you truly are, instead of being out in the Ego, in bad feelings.
    It is not about suppressing thoughts, it’s about choosing thoughts that makes you feel better.
    Use your Ego to find ways to feel better.
    Byron Katie says: Your stressful thoughts may be: “I have cancer, I’m going to die, they can’t heal me, my condition is hopeless, it’s not fair, I have created this,”
    I think Abraham would say, choose thoughts like:
    “Yes, I have cancer, and my negative thoughts created it, but I don’t have to die, I can heal myself, my condition is hopeful, it is fair, Law of Attraction is always fair, and I am free to choose, I am free to choose a way that gives me good feelings in the process of following the thoughts that believes it is possible to heal myself.”
    It’s all about feeling good in the now. Either you question the negative beliefs or you choose thoughts that gives you hope or other good feelings.

  175. What we know in our hearts might be the only secret. Nothing outside ourselves exists, just a deep sense of knowing that we are it & our journey is one of self-love & acceptance.

  176. I have to admit the first time I read “The Secret” and “Loving What Is” I felt like it was something that I had always known. It made the world a magical place once again, I had the feeling of a newborn baby seeing the world for the very first time. The law of attraction.. that like attracts like is what makes this world a magical place. I feel like the interpretation of “The Secret” has been lost in a “worldly” sense. Take it back to the basics..leave the materialistic out of the equation. Positive thoughts attract positive reality and negative thoughts attract negative reality. I believe that The Work is a way to learn to live “The Secret”. Byron teaches us that we can choose to believe the positive thoughts which in turn creates the positive reality of the world. I absolutely love Bryon Katie and all that she teaches.
    “Overcoming fear frees us from the bond that paralyzes our life’s destiny”
    Tricia Harbert

  177. I think The Secret is based in fear. It is the ego believing that it must be in control in order to bring good into it’s life. If I trust God, If I live in a friendly universe, then nothing but good is coming my way anyway. In fact, what is coming my way is better than anything my ego could conceive. Egos are trapped in materialism so all egos can ask for are things. The ego even asks for love as if it were a possession or accessory. God’s will and my will are the same. So without effort what comes to me is perfect. The ego isn’t needed to steer the ship; the ship steers itself just fine. I’ve utilized the LOA with success, but constant diligence isn’t necessary. Trust and surrender and all will be well without any effort from you.

    1. While it never hurts to be clear on our intentions, the bottom line in my experience is that we already have TOO MUCH stuff, desires, etc. – and don’t need to work the LOA to manifest “more” but rather appreciate what’s already here in our lives and let the extra, i.e. half-believed fears, thoughts, desires we don’t wholeheartedly want, fall away. Which is what doing the Work does for me.

  178. Wow, nice blog! I happened to stumble across this I don’t know why… but here’s my two cents…

    They say Success is getting what you want, and Happiness is wanting what you get.

    So, simply put, use the Secret to get what you want out of life, and use the Work to want what you get out of life.

    The two philosophies can work separately, or together. It’s up to the individual’s capacity to understand either or both philosophies and utilize them.

    In a way the Work is easier to accept as a life principle than the Secret because it deals primarily with conditions in one’s immediate environment. It’s learning how to accept things that are, whether these things are out of one’s own control or not.

    The Secret, for all intensive purposes, is more about manifesting conditions in your environment that are not currently there, or manifesting conditions that you want to persist. Now, if somebody grows up in an environment full of people who believe life happens to them, the Secret is basically blasphemy, and will most likely be rejected (unless of course somebody has the courage to go against their social structure, and the persistence to expel all of the pre programmed language & negative thinking… no easy task)

    It’s a little silly how some people people see these philosophies as ‘this one OR that one’.

    There is more than enough room for both to coexist.

    Happy blogging!

  179. for me the secret was an experience that prepared me for the next… it was how a certain passage of my life was articulated… a stage about going beyond the limits of my mind… it took me from feeling like a victim to feeling in control and limitless… the work has taken me from feeling in control and limitless from a different standpoint… from the basis of not being in control at all… and at the same time the knowing that i don’t need to do anything to have what i want because i already and always do… the experience of which is accesible through inquiry… and again these stages being how life articulates itself… choicelessly or through apparent choice… so the secret was necessary for as long as it was…

  180. In my view The Work comes before The Secret.
    Loving what is and being in the moment, happy with your life, in a state of pure joy and awe, not trying to ‘make’ anything happen, just fully present, makes all our inner desires come to us because we are magnets, attracting whatever energies we put out…by accepting ‘what is’, what we truly want start coming to us. It has been my own experience for the past 10 years of my life. But again that is my belief…. 🙂

    1. I agree…
      Just like Katie states above.
      “…inquiry breaks the spell of “negative” thoughts and therefore what we negatively feel and believe.
      The negative thoughts, unless we question them, override the positive thoughts that we want to believe,
      and negative thoughts win out, and the positive thoughts are just powerful and ring true enough to make us feel better occasionally.
      They don’t work when we really are believing the stressful ones, the one that we don’t want to believe:
      “I have cancer, I’m going to die, they can’t heal me, my condition is hopeless, it’s not fair, I have created this,” etc.

      With or without cancer, my life is what it is, and I am grateful for that.
      With or without cancer, I am still sitting in this chair writing to you,
      and there are two ways to sit here.
      One is happy, and the other is stressed out.”

  181. I haven’t read The Secret, because I have read The Teachings of Abraham. If you read The Teachings of Abraham Hicks, the original source material for The Secret, you will know that focusing on what you don’t have, will only get you more of what you don’t have. If you love and appreciate what is, then you will get more of what is. If you spend your time trying “attract” what you don’t have, then you will be, as Katie would say, “fighting against what is.” Katie’s work is the same as Abraham’s in that it invites you to look at the thoughts you are thinking and focusing on, and helps you realize the choices we make to think those thoughts. She talks about how the world shows us what we think. That is the Law of Attraction at it’s core, without the hoopla and the smoke and mirrors. We have everything that we could possibly want right here! There is no shame in wanting something different from what is. We all have, what Abraham would call, “rockets of desire.” We want to feel joy. Our emotional guidance system, or how we are feeling, is telling us whether we are traveling toward that desire or away from it. What brings everyone to Katie’s work, is that we want to feel better. We don’t want the feelings of anger, sadness and despair. Katie helps us realize how we can shift or “turn the thoughts around” so that we realize where we are stopping the flow of joy that is our birthright. It gives relief. It helps us find peace. We are not the victims to our circumstances, we create our circumstances when we choose these these negative “untrue” thoughts. It helps us manifest the joy that we are all searching for, because it shows us that we HAVE the joy that we are all searching for. Byron Katie and Abraham are one and the same.

  182. I don’t know if anyone will read through all the comments and get to mine, but if you did, hear is my tuppence on the matter. I haven’t watched ‘The Secret’ but I have successfully used manifesting in my life to get a job, a home and a relationship. To my mind the law of attraction works by focusing the mind, perhaps a bit like a to do list. You put your wishes down on paper, in detail & in the present tense “I have…” rather than “I want…”, add pictures of the reality you want and look at this vision board and read through the list regularly. Yes, putting the requests in the present tense is different from reality, but your body responds to the idea that you have these things, not unlike how athletes prepare for big competitions by visualising the moves beforehand & creating muscle memory. Then as you go about your life the requests and the pictures are there in your subconscious and you take more actions towards your goals. The goal doesn’t simply come about without your doing anything but you are reminded, subconsciously, to take steps towards those goals, for example if you visualised your dream job you are then more likely to take steps to improve your resume and interview technique and to look for and apply for suitable jobs, if you wish for health then you are more likely to take steps towards a healthy lifestyle such as exercising, getting a check up, eating healthily and cutting down on things that cause you stress. Some people say that the ‘universe’ sees you doing these things and steps in to help, and that might be true since there are some near miraculous stories of getting the things we asked for, but for the most part it is just giving yourself a helping hand to reach your goals using your subconscious.
    I don’t think the law of attraction is the same as what Byron Katie teaches, but neither are the two completely opposed, the two simply have different purposes, to my mind. Byron Katie’s work teaches us to let go of untrue assumptions and thoughts that cause us stress, and is very, very helpful in that respect. The law of attraction is more like a shopping list reminding us what it is that we aspire to and helping us to keep on track towards those goals.

    1. I did ^_^
      and enjoyed your two pence 😉
      Thank you!
      I agree with your statements… however.
      The secret without the work could lead to more negative thoughts/believes…
      If the “results” stay away for some time….
      It becomes easy to think, “it doesn’t work, it’s no use, I will never…. etc…”
      This would be counterproductive according to The Secret.

  183. It seems very simple…no turnarounds needed at all! Undivided Mind has no opposite. It is ONE.
    NO SECRET possible in an Undivided Mind, Yes? But if you believe that your mind can have
    secrets from you, well… that’s madness, craziness, insanity! Undivided Mind is all there is. Maybe
    the only turnaround needed is THERE IS NO SECRET…DUH!

  184. I’ve used The Work for going on 13 years. I use it personally and in my psychotherapy practice. Fairly recently I moved to a small town in Labrador. Three weeks ago I started working at a treatment centre for Aboriginal families (First Nations, Metis, and Inuit) as a program facilitator and outreach coordinator. I love my job. I love coming up with a programs for our clients. One of the workshops given by the person whose role I’m in (while she’s on maternity leave) was The Secret. I am free to change some of the program details. Today I replaced it with The Work. Hurrah! I showed my parent group the video on Racism and Prejudice. They have done work sheets and we’re going through one by one. They loved the video and seem to love the work – why not? I’m not telling them to cut out bits of magazine pictures (from white urban centres) of cars and kitchens but helping them to lay down their old burdens of belief. Thank you thank you thank you for not being The Secret.
    As an aside, I always wondered why it was a secret if it was so great? What kind of universal intelligence keeps the goodies for those a chosen few? It’s what turned me off some churches and I sure don’t see it as a workable method. I got no secrets – I love what is.

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